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Rothrandir:
First and foremost: Attitude is everything!
You are at a good age to begin looking into law enforcement. I too, suggest some ride alongs with your local PD. Days and nights. Bring a small notebook and a couple of pens. Take note of the different styles the officers use between both shifts. Also consider State Police and Sheriffs Dept.
You may want to visit (call first) your local Attorney Generals' office, and perhaps go to your local courthouses, and sit in on a couple of trials.
Your local college or adult education program may offer a preparing for a career in law enforcement class.

If you ride along, be respectfull, listen more than talk. Keep your opinions to yourself. (When you are in charge, your opinions become orders).

There are many area's in local, state, and federal law enforcement. Usually, some college credits in a degree program are required. More likely, a 2yr (local) or 4yr (federal) degree is desirable.

Your appearance is very important. This means being fit. It also means having a professional looking haircut, no earrings (for a male), manicured fingernails, being clean, and not having excessive odors (cologne, smoke, smells).

Mannerisms. How you act, sit, stand, walk, look, and listen are just as important as how you speak. (good interviewers will look for these things).

Politics. My best advice is to confidentaly (one on one) ask the officers you ride with. There are some Law Enforcement forums. Some people give good sound advice; others have opinions.

For Police Work; you will take written exams, Psysical Agility tests, medical exams, drug screening, and psycological profiles.

Academy. The academy provides you with the basic knowledge and tools to get you safely started in your career. Some academies are live in (m-f), others are 40 -50-plus hours a week. (you are there to learn. You are also being judged, and eveyone is watching you. You are establishing a reputation that will be with you throughout you career.

A Captain told me "we are in the people business". Your job is to deal with peoples' problems. What seems trivial to you is very important to tham (that's why you are there).

Once you are a LEO, your life will change. A strong support structure, (other officer's, a good family, friends, and faith) will help you overcome stress in the job.

If you do get into LE. please, treat people the way you would want your family treated. Treat people with respect, unless, or until, you have reason to treat differently. Learn (positive and negative) from everyone you meet. The academy, on the job training, schools, and seminars are tools. Put them in your toolbox. Some tools you use alot, others not at all.

Some people decide that law enforcemnt isn't for them. They have the courage and wisdom to realize it, and move on to another career.

One big advantage for you, is that you can show all the LEO's the cool flashlights we have.

Lastly, (Whew!) regardless of whereever you go in life or career, don't forget where you came from! As you get older, and more experienced in life, you will meet people with the same passion and desires that you have now.

Good luck with all that you do. May you excell in your conquests. Keep the fire in your eyes. Feel free to PM me you wish. (I hope I can figure it out, if not post for me).

Best Regards, Ken.
 
thanks for the responses!

i really appreciate everyones help /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Roth I'm not a LEO so I'm just offering a suggestion or two from the outside... I've noticed a whole world of difference between the state police and the local police requirements, pay, and other things. I think the average state cop gets far more than the average salary of local, but of course depending on area. And here in Mass. they get rockin' cool uniforms compared to the usual dark-blue local ones with regular shoes. And there definitely appears to be a minumum forearm diameter requirement (for the men, that is). /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/huh.gif The state's entry exam only comes up when the legislature deems it necessary, though, and the last one is listed as being way back in 2002. May be the same in Iowa, I dunno.

Of course, where I live we have such a fantastic local police department that I'd be hard-pressed to suggest taking a different route. It's a fairly quiet "bedroom community" and the police all seem to enjoy their job. (I'm sure it has its downs too, though) The officers on our force are all relatively young so I get the impression that this town might be a stepping point on some ladder. Might be some insider technique going on there that'd be good to learn about too.

And finally, don't forget that it's a relatively thankless job as are many/most of this kind (fire, rescue, military, etc). Although there are a so very many of us who have a consistent and deep sense of gratitude to our law enforcement folks, there's rarely a conduit to express that. Certainly the media and the courts don't appear to help in that role either. As a close comparison, remember how incredibly shocked the troops in Iraq were during CPF's Operation Enlightenments, for example. So you'll just kinda have to live with that mostly-unreinforced knowledge that there really are a whole lot of people out there who feel a deep sense of thanks for your work but you'll very rarely if ever hear about it from any source other than your support group. You're a smart guy and I'm sure you know that. Maybe I'm just kinda trying to reinforce that sentiment of thanks from an outsider just in case you do decide to go that route and in case there are other LEO's listening. FWIW.

Here's another example of something to consider, which is just something you'll have to hope will get fixed but it doesn't look promising. Just as an example of the way things are heading due to liability concerns. My wife used to manage a set of retail clothing stores for a NE-based company that were in a shopping mall. Conservative women's clothing, but not exactly inexpensive. One day a police officer came in with a woman in custody and an armload of clothes with the tags still on, which meant they hadn't been paid for. (I think I have those facts straight, but the woman and clothes may have been in the cruiser). The police officer said basically "We've got this woman and she's got a trunkload of clothes stolen from your store and others. Do you want to press charges?" My wife had to reply "We're not allowed to. Not only did we not see her take the clothes, but they left the store. Once they're outside the door we're not allowed to pursue and we're also not allowed to presume that they were stolen." (Yes, I know that means that it precludes any possible scenario of stealing the clothes but that was the insane corporate policy at the time. You could walk in and without hiding it you could walk out with an armload of clothes, repeat as desired, and nobody was allowed to do anything about it.) The cop lost it. He said "You know, we spend a lot of time & man-hours trying to keep this place protected and we've caught this woman obviously red-handed and she's stolen clothes from all these stores and you're not even going to press charges??? I just don't know why we bother doing this!"
And somehow I think that'll still rank as one of your less frustrating experiences. But I bet there'll be other days when you can help just one person in just the right way and it makes a lifetime of smiles. What an amazing occupation.
 
one of my biggest concerns is i can't stand criminals. this is one of the main reasons i'd like to look into law enforcement, but sometimes i wonder if i'll be able to hold back giving them what they deserve...

i'm very good at keeping my cool though, hopefully i can just let it fly by without reaction /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif
 
thanks wolfen!

well, i pass all that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I am considering joining the LA Sheriffs Dept after I get my B.A. My friend at 22 made 50k before taxes this year (no college). I want to go in and be his boss!
 
I've been holding off on this thread...not sure why. Here's my take, mainly coming from a very political Department and working in what some consider one of the most dangerous police districts in California:

--Most agencies, today, want smart admin types, not crime fighters. Crime Fighters actually fight crime. Admins don't like this (but this is a whole other topic). Most Administrations will not back you during a civil or criminal lawsuit (and you WILL get sued).
--The job will kill you. Not from being shot, stabbed, run over. But from heart attack, stress attack, chronic back, hip and knee problems. It's not a myth that a lot of officers die from heart problems. In my department it's considered pre-sumptive that you will develop heart conditions over the course of your career.
--Married? You probably won't be after getting hired. 5 of my coworkers are getting divorces in the last year.
--Most forces are getting younger. Law Enforcement is developing a high turnover rate and a low retirement rate.
--Pay? From the low 20's to the high 90's w/out overtime. Remember, though, it's a government job. And Police/Fire are the first in line for layoff's during hard economic times when citys have no money.
--Why would you wnat to get involved in this field? Can't answer that. For me, the rush and rewards do it.
--The way L.E. is going, today, I don't know if I would want to do it from a fresh start. Most P.D.'s are crippled by politics, policies written by the ACLU, constant frivolous lawsuits, citizen's complaints. And those in carge are afraid to make a decision, which is a HUGE problem. They are afraid of the political backlash, which trickles down to the line level officer (i.e. keeping track of race data during traffic stops, EVEN THOUGH the whole racial profiling idea was proven to be false, but don't tell that to the ACLU).

This is a bit disjointed, and I could go on and on...Maybe I'll write a little essay, and post it after the board upgrade...

--dan
 
an essay would be nice! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

what you've said about politics is probably my biggest concern /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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