Class 3: SureFire G2 gets a new life

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A fellow CPFer burned the miniature halogen bulb in his SureFire G2 when he put a Pila battery in the light. Instead of getting a replacement P61 lightbulb assembly for $25, he asked me if I could mod the G2 into a Luxeon light while maintaining the modular design of the P61 assembly.

The P1 lightbulb assembly has a reflector made of pure aluminum which is about 1mm thick around the lip and maybe 3mm thick towards the bottom. A short cylindral portion at the base of the reflector connects the reflector to the plastic base of the assembly by epoxy. Two springs connect the halogen bulb to the battery.

After some serious head scratching /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif I finally got a plan.

The epoxy-sealed parts were separated by brutal force /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

A ~1cm section of a 9mm-diameter aluminum rod was cut out. Two 1mm holes were drilled on the slug length-wise, about 0.5mm from the edge (had anybody else tried to drill similar thin, long holes with just a hand drill? I had to repeat a few times and nearly broke my drill bit, before finally got a piece that didn't have the hole poking out half way down the length.) The holes were lined with a plastic sleeve; two wires were threaded through; the Luxeon emitter was mounted on the slug by epoxy, and connected to the wires.

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The opening of the reflector was enlarged to accomodate the slug.

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The Luxeon was connected to a bentch supply and the reflector was put on. After finding the appropriate focal point, I scored a mark on the slug, and it was shortened so that it could sit flat at the focal point.

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I used the Buck converter described in the DN-73 design sheet. Of course the parts were changed.

The Luxeon slug was epoxied to the back of the converter board:

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Then the reflector was epoxied on:

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The two springs were put in place:

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Please note the plastic ring between the two springs---it was used to help the final epoxy-seal process.

Here is the final assembly---epoxy was poured in, and the springs were soldered to the board.

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The module goes into SureFire just like the original module, and should work with any light that accepts the P61 assembly.

The beam shot---the second is forced -2 level under-exposure. There are some small "buds" at the rim of the beam, which are caused by plastic nipples on the SureFire G2 bezel.

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The emitter was a TV0J from Klaus, and the driving current was at 1A. The "orange peel" reflector was not the most effective in generating a super-bright hotspot, but it does generate a flood of light with a tight hotspot. The throw was pretty good---easily reached 30m+ at night. Sorry I don't have any "standard" high-powered light to compare the beams /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
 
This is nice. Another reason for me to get a G2 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

nexro
 
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Sugar!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Cool! I was just thinking about that the other day looking at the yellow beam from my P60, but was curious as to how the nitrolon would conduct the heat.

Have you tried running a set of batteries through it, and see if the heat generated affects the emitter?

-YC
 
How did you solder to the springs? When I tried soldering to the stock springs, I failed miserably. I could not get any solder to stick for the life of me. I just figured it'd have to be tack welded in place. What I did instead was to just put a wire around the spring and twist it tight ;-) Crude, and not particularly effective (especially considering the extent of my mod....a 5mm LED and a resistor, about as expensive as I can afford).
 
Thanks for the encouraging comments and PMs that expressed interests in this mod.

Currently ths mod is not yet on my "available" list. The reason, as yclo and others asked, is the heat. Due to the difficulty in accessing cheap CR123s in Canada, I did not run a full set of batteries through the light. The longest I let the light run was 15 minutes. The outside was only luke warm, but the inside (metal reflector) did get very hot. I suspect the comfort zone should be to use 500mA, instead of 1A, as the driving current---unless you are sure that you will only use it in short bursts.

I will wait a while until I hear back from the owner of this mod and find out how the light is holding up to the 1A current, and post an update here.
 
Sounds good. But wouldn't it fare much better in the aluminum body of a Surefire 6P? That's really where my interest lies. I have an old 6P that could use an update. I would also gladly volunteer my services as a guinea pig for such a product /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
hint, hint!
 
I think the outside only got luke warm because plastic is so awful at conducting heat.
 
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LED mods As Small As Possible said:
Currently ths mod is not yet on my "available" list. The reason, as yclo and others asked, is the heat. Due to the difficulty in accessing cheap CR123s in Canada, I did not run a full set of batteries through the light. The longest I let the light run was 15 minutes.

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LED mods As Small As Possible: looks like you live in Vancouver. So do I. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif For future mods, if you need 123s, just let me know (send me a PM). I order a whole whackload at a time, so I usually have enough. As long as this puts me on your future list (if this mod is available), that's cool. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
 
A crazy driver knocked over a hydro pole and put me off-line for two days /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/xyxgun.gif

ErickThakrar
I don't have SureFire 6P, but if you want to be the guinea pig and promise not to hold me responsible for a broken 6P, I would certainly love to give it a try.


paulr
I agree that the plastic casing is a very poor thermo-conductor. If I were to make a new module, I intend to make it at 500mA, instead of 1A---at least that's where my confort zone is.

Prolepsis
Thank you for the offer---I may need your supply of CR123s /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Dude, I am soooo not gonna hold you responsible /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Hook me up! I love being the guineapig /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
The area between the springs where the current circuit is potted would also be good place for a downboy, maybe even potted into an e-can. (hint, hint...)
 
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