DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2

[ernsanada]

I just received the DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 from Dereelight.

More information at CPFMP Thread

Actualy I received 2 DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2's. Both lights have the SMO Reflector.

Fron Dereelights website.

Cree XR-E Q5 emitter
Driver choose from: 1S, 2SD, 3SD or DI, 1SM-1 module can handle 2xCR123A
Shut down at 2.7V to protect lithium battery from over-discharging
Limited reverse protection for 5 seconds
Upgradeable
Forward clicky
Smooth reflector, OP optional
Type III hard anodized finish
Using 1x18650, 1x17670 or 1x168a
Dimensions: 158mm(Length)x 48mm(Head)x 27mm(housing)
Material: Constructed of aircraft grade aluminum
Waterproof
Weight: 185-gram weight
Glass: Toughened ultra clear glass lens with double face AR coating
GITD switch cover
Removable clip, Removable anti-rolling ring
Color: Black
Package: Giftbox
Accessories: Spare rubbercap(black), Extra O-ring

The fits is excellent.

The Type III Hard Anodize Black is excellent.

My inital impression's of the Cree XR-E WH R2 beam is that I like the tint of the Cree XR-E WC Q5 a lot more. The tint of the WH R2 is on the yellow and slight green on the other beam. The slight green tint has a higher lux reading. The lux reading is about the same as the WC Q5.

The other thing I noticed was the DBS V2 uses a spring on the tailcap. the DBS V1 did not have the spring.

Using the UI is easy to figure out.

I ordered 2 DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 and 1 Dereelight CL1H V3.0 DI Cree WH R2

Left, DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 . Right, DBS V1 XRE-E Q5 with 3 Way Module SMO

Left, DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 . Right, DBS V1 XRE-E Q5 with 3 Way Module SMO

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These are the lux readings I got. I am using a Meterman LM631 Light Meter measured at 1 meter. I waited 2 minutes before taking the readings. I am using AW's Protected 18650.

1. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 - 20,121 lux @ 1 meter

2. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 - 19,152 lux @ 1 meter

DBS V1 XRE-E Q5 with 3 Way Module SMO 18650 - 20,767 lux @ 1 meter


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1. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 @ 83"

2. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 @ 83"

DBS XRE-E Q5 with 3 Way Module SMO 18650 @ 83"

Left, 1. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650. Right, 2. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 @ 83"

Left, 1. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650. Right, 2. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 @ 83 Stepped down exposure

Left, 2. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650. Right, DBS V1 XRE-E Q5 with 3 Way Module SMO 18650 @ 83"

Left, 1. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650. Right, DBS V1 XRE-E Q5 with 3 Way Module SMO 18650 @ 83" Stepped down exposure

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In thse next 2 shots that were seen above. The lights on the left are the 1 & 2 DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650. The tint looks closet to what it looks in real life.

 

[marc123]

I love the look of the new V2.

However, I thought the R2 was supposed to be 10% brighter? The tint looks fairly average as well. I am thinking that I should have got the Q5 and not R2 with my order....

Thanks for the review ernsanada.

 

[daveman]

I love the look of the new V2.

However, I thought the R2 was supposed to be 10% brighter? The tint looks fairly average as well. I am thinking that I should have got the Q5 and not R2 with my order....

Thanks for the review ernsanada.

There's a range with the binning, the Q5 could be at the top of its bin while the R2 being a low achiever in the bottom of its bin.

 

[Steve L]

Hi Ernie, Great review. I received the DBS V2 w R2 today also. I'm getting the same results. DBS V1 3SD Q5 22,000 lux; DBS V2 DI R2 21,500 lux; CL1H v3 3SD Q5 9500 lux; CL1H v3 DI R2 9000 lux(same light two different pills). I'm wondering if the if the DI pills are running at 1.2a like the 3SD are. Two different DI R2 pills putting out less output than two 3SD Q5 pills doesn't seem quite right. I also prefer the WC tint.

 

[ernsanada]

Hi Ernie, Great review. I received the DBS V2 w R2 today also. I'm getting the same results. DBS V1 3SD Q5 22,000 lux; DBS V2 DI R2 21,500 lux; CL1H v3 3SD Q5 9500 lux; CL1H v3 DI R2 9000 lux(same light two different pills). I'm wondering if the if the DI pills are running at 1.2a like the 3SD are. Two different DI R2 pills putting out less output than two 3SD Q5 pills doesn't seem quite right. I also prefer the WC tint.

I think I remember reading the WH R2 pills were running at 1.2A.

 

[Steve L]

I think I remember reading the WH R2 pills were running at 1.2A.

I agree, but with the numbers and these being my first DI pills. I thought maybe the DI pills are running at less current then the 3SD or 2SD pills. Maybe a higher Vf of the R2's could be the culprit.

 

[ernsanada]

1. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 @ 32'

2. DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 @ 32'

DBS V1 XRE-E Q5 with 3 Way Module SMO 18650 @ 32'

 

[LifeNRA]

Why does the beam look so much smoother on the V1 with the Q5? Are the V1 and V2 reflectors the same?

 

[phantom]

Hi ernsanada,

Thanks for the great review as usual.

BTW, I don' see any lanyard hole at the tailcap.

Did Dereelight remove the lanyard hole and add a clip instead?

phantom.

 

[marc123]

I would say that is pretty disappointing, in my eyes the Q5 looks much brighter, cleaner and overall a better beam. The first R2 looks to be hardly even in the same class.

 

[ernsanada]

Hi ernsanada,

Thanks for the great review as usual.

BTW, I don' see any lanyard hole at the tailcap.

Did Dereelight remove the lanyard hole and add a clip instead?

phantom.

No lanyard hole, just a clip only.

 

[ernsanada]

Left, DBS V1 Q5. Right, DBS V2 WH R2

 

[Stereodude]

I would say that is pretty disappointing, in my eyes the Q5 looks much brighter, cleaner and overall a better beam. The first R2 looks to be hardly even in the same class.

I guess this is a lesson for the bin chasers. :green:

 

[marc123]

I will wait and see how my R2 is but if it is anything like the first of the outside beamshots above I will be asking Alan for a swap to a Q5.

 

[ernsanada]

I guess this is a lesson for the bin chasers. :green:

I'm guilty of chasing them Bins! :help:

 

[marc123]

Ernsanada,
do the beams look as disappointing in real life as the photos seem to show them?

 

[turboBB]

I must confess that is quite disappointing as well.

For those who have dealt with Alan before, do you think he would be willing to do a swap of the R2 for Q5?

 

[TeaQue]

This is diasppointing

This is also the first time I've spent $100+ on a light.

 

[ernsanada]

Ernsanada,
do the beams look as disappointing in real life as the photos seem to show them?

It's very hard to do beam shots. The Digital Camera has a hard time taking actual beam shots. The brighter lights tend to be closer to what you see in the picture.

In the first picture the #1 DBS V2 DI Cree XR-E WH R2 SMO 18650 @ 32' in real life, three times more sidepill.

The Q5 is brighter and has a whiter color than the R2. The R2 has a yellow tint to it's beam.

 

[ernsanada]

I think I remember reading the WH R2 pills were running at 1.2A.

Does anybody know if the DI Q5 Pills are running at 1.2A?