Eagletac T10LC2

[polkiuj]

Hey all,

I'm thinking of getting this light (Eagletec T10LC2) and just wanna know if anyone have experiences with it?

What I wanna know is:

#1 How tough is the "redesigned" head? Will it break like the T10C2 if used as a striking weapon?

#2 Is the beam still as nice as the T10C2?

#3 Is there any battery rattle with CR123s or RCR123s?

#4 Does it put out less lumens compared to the T10C2 (this isn't really important unless it's <200L)

#5 Any other recommendations? I'm also thinking of:
Wolf-eyes Champion-X (more expensive, more modes, useless extra modes, less output?)
Surefire E2DL (great low mode, no med mode, awesome big bright hotspot, more than double the price, tailcap too fat, less output)

 

[Policetacteam]

#1 How tough is the "redesigned" head? Will it break like the T10C2 if used as a striking weapon?

I have used the T10LC2 for the past three weeks on duty. The light is very tough, although I have not used it as an impact weapon.

#2 Is the beam still as nice as the T10C2?

I cannot make any comparisons because I did not own a T10C2.

#3 Is there any battery rattle with CR123s or RCR123s?

I use an AWQ 18650 battery. The 123's do rattle but once the tail cap is tightened down it seems to hold the 123's firmly...no rattle!

#4 Does it put out less lumens compared to the T10C2 (this isn't really important unless it's <200L)

The T10LC2 states that it puts out 195 lumens. I have no way to actually validate that claim but I can say that it is the brightest light own! The light has excellent throw for long range lighting and great for indoor use as well!!

This has proven to be an excellent duty light! I have been using the 18650 battery with excellent results. I have yet had an 8 or 12 hour shift where I ran out of juice in the battery. The output is awesome and it fits perfectly in my Blackhawk Mod-U-lok holster. I would highly recommend this light for basic use or duty use! Hope this helps.

 

[phantom23]

#2 Is the beam still as nice as the T10C2?

No. Cree rings are more noticeable.

#4 Does it put out less lumens compared to the T10C2 (this isn't really important unless it's <200L)

Yes. They're equally bright although using 18650 starts @90% brightness of CR123 and drops fast (check this review out).

 

[polkiuj]

Thanks for the replies!!

The T10LC2 states that it puts out 195 lumens.

Actually it states 295 lumens :naughty:

Also, you say that you can't compare it to the T10C2. But what do you think of its beam. Does it still have a near perfect beam? Or is it ringy like the reviews?

Thanks Phantom, already read that review. Just wanting to get some real world user's opinions.

The reason I asked is because Eagletac had a near perfect beam quality on the T10C2 but alas the glass appears to shatter upon (hard) impact. Now the T10LC2 has replaced it with a new head design and more throw but at beam quality cost (Which I hope not)?

 

[Painful Chafe]

Hey all,

I'm thinking of getting this light (Eagletec T10LC2) and just wanna know if anyone have experiences with it?

What I wanna know is:

#1 How tough is the "redesigned" head? Will it break like the T10C2 if used as a striking weapon?

#2 Is the beam still as nice as the T10C2?

#3 Is there any battery rattle with CR123s or RCR123s?

#4 Does it put out less lumens compared to the T10C2 (this isn't really important unless it's <200L)

#5 Any other recommendations? I'm also thinking of:
Wolf-eyes Champion-X (more expensive, more modes, useless extra modes, less output?)
Surefire E2DL (great low mode, no med mode, awesome big bright hotspot, more than double the price, tailcap too fat, less output)

There is a little battery rattle, but that can be solved with some o rings or other type of spacer. EagleTac is making a spacer that should be available very soon.

It is supposed to put out a little better throw than the T10C2. It is still rated at the same output. The output is well over 200lm. ANd the beam on mine is perfect.

I think the problem with the head breaking was only the glass which has been redesigned. Mine feels very sturdy to me.

The only other light I was considering and may still get is the Regal WT1 second version.

 

[I came to the light...]

Hey all,

I'm thinking of getting this light (Eagletec T10LC2) and just wanna know if anyone have experiences with it?

What I wanna know is:

#1 How tough is the "redesigned" head? Will it break like the T10C2 if used as a striking weapon?

haven't tested it, but there is a clearly visible plastic ring meant to fix this problem.

#2 Is the beam still as nice as the T10C2?

yes, approximately - never had the two side by side, but going from memory.

#3 Is there any battery rattle with CR123s or RCR123s?

yes. EagleTac is supposedly planning to release a battery caddy, but this is driving me crazy.

#4 Does it put out less lumens compared to the T10C2 (this isn't really important unless it's <200L)

Don't have one to compare, but I believe they are the same.

#5 Any other recommendations? I'm also thinking of:
Wolf-eyes Champion-X (more expensive, more modes, useless extra modes, less output?)
Surefire E2DL (great low mode, no med mode, awesome big bright hotspot, more than double the price, tailcap too fat, less output)

Both of these throw a lot less but have wider spots. I have tried the Champion, and it is very well designed, with a beam that seems to dim slower than it should given its width and intensity at short range. Haven't tried an E2DL, but keep in mind it has far less spill than more efficient lights.

 

[Lightaholic]

Greetings,

This is technically one of my first posts on the forums. I recently sold a 6p on the marketplace. Anyway, I am also very interested in purchasing this light.

The thing is that I have almost bought it twice now only to discover something else that bums me out. For example, I was just about to buy this little morsel then I discovered the lens shattering threads. Well, after I discovered the T10lc2 model addressed and fixed this issue, I discover now that the batteries rattle. This is an issue for me if its sever because I will be using this light at night when I run. Considering this light will be bouncing back and forth like a relay baton two batteries clicking coulld drive a man insane.

So, if anyone has anymore insite I would be very grateful if they would chime in. It appears to be the brightest light out there with with two modes for the size, tailstands, tough, good price, but it seems design is still not ready?

Please help, should I buy it?

Also, just want to say that I can really appreciate guys like yourselves. My wife always said that when I get into something I go all out. I suppose if you can do this with flashlights then you can with anything .

Bump, I am really curious to see if anyone has anymore info on this light. I have considered purchasing it and almost followed through but now I find the battery rattles. The issue for me is I will be running many miles each night with this light and before I buy this little morsel I want to make sure I am not going to sound like I have a couple of morrocas in my hand because of the batteries rattling.

It seems this light is the brightest 2 123 light you can buy for the size but I cant help but be a bit concerned with quality. It seems not much thought went into it with the lens issue and the battery rattling.

My question is should I buy this light?

Been lurking for awhile and recenlty sold a 6p on the market place. Great info and great group of guys here. Thanks for all the help and info.

 

[polkiuj]

Wow, that is really a lot of info in here, even for a relatively new light. I guess I should just go for it and see how it goes =D

So many lights.. So little money.. =D

 

[Sharpy_swe]

... I discover now that the batteries rattle. This is an issue for me if its sever because I will be using this light at night when I run. Considering this light will be bouncing back and forth like a relay baton two batteries clicking coulld drive a man insane...

This is because the battery tube is made for 18650 rechargeable's, and the ''problem'' is easily fixed with some paper in the tube or tape around the battery's.

 

[KRUPPSTAHL]

the L version of the T 10 C should have well over 250 Lumens, with
improved ( 25 % + ) throw....

i have ordered it and cant wait.

i am not concerned about battery rattle, had that before.

a piece of insulation tape fixed that....and never gave me no problems.

 

[Dukester]

the L version of the T 10 C should have well over 250 Lumens, with
improved ( 25 % + ) throw....

i have ordered it and cant wait.

i am not concerned about battery rattle, had that before.

a piece of insulation tape fixed that....and never gave me no problems.

Let us know what you think of it?

 

[Lightaholic]

I am still torn. I think I am going to wait. For some reason I cant help but think this Eagletac is going to bite me in some way if I buy it.

 

[Splunk_Au]

#2 Is the beam still as nice as the T10C2?

You might want to read this review, the beam profiles between the T10C2 and T10L is quite different.

 

[polkiuj]

Well, from what I gathered from light reviews and my country's distributor.

We'll call the T10C2 old one and the T10LC2 new one ok?

The new one's beam has improved throw (almost 10k lux @ 1m vs ~7k lux), a smaller spill with relatively the same brightness as before. And it is suppose to have the same hotspot size as the old one. It is also suppose to have the same clean beam (light reviews might have a slightly misaligned emitter)

This highly perplexes me. How does a light improve throw by that margin with the same hotspot size while only losing a little spill size? Sounds impossible to me. Also I've noticed that the new one has much less texture in the reflector.

So, this is based on my assumptions...

#1 It's beam quality should suffer a little bit compared to the old one
#2 It should throw a narrower hotspot, hopefully not much =(

I'm also surprised that for a light that is designed to run 2x(R)CR123s, it has a tubing that accommodates a 18650, for which it does not run regulated and neither does it reach max brightness. What is the purpose?

 

[edc3]

I am still torn. I think I am going to wait. For some reason I cant help but think this Eagletac is going to bite me in some way if I buy it.

Lightaholic,

If you're planning on using this light with 18650, you shouldn't have a problem with battery rattle. If you're going to use it with 123's, EagleTac is supposed to be releasing a battery holder that should eliminate the rattle. Or you can use one of the previously mentioned home remedies. I've got a T10C2 and, although I'm a little concerned about the lens breaking problem (for which a fix is reportedly in the works), I'm very happy with the light. I'm very tempted to buy a T10LC2 also, but I can't really justify it.

:welcome:

 

[Mjolnir]

polkiuj, the original T series lights have a pretty large spill beam. The new T10LC2 has a smaller spill beam, so some of the brightness goes into the spot, which might also be smaller. This doesn't necessarily mean that beam quality will be bad, since it still has a textured reflector.
From light-reviews.com about the T10LC2:

"Both hotspot and spill beam are smooth with no major artifacts other than the slight dark ring around the hotspot. This is common among most XR-E based lights. However the dark ring here isn't as bad as I've seen in some others."

This seems to suggest that the beam is still relatively artifact free.

 

[golfdawg]

You could try the Olight magazine to stop the rattle.

http://www.batteryjunction.com/acc-olight-magazine-spare.html

 

[Lightaholic]

Lightaholic,

If you're planning on using this light with 18650, you shouldn't have a problem with battery rattle. If you're going to use it with 123's, EagleTac is supposed to be releasing a battery holder that should eliminate the rattle. Or you can use one of the previously mentioned home remedies. I've got a T10C2 and, although I'm a little concerned about the lens breaking problem (for which a fix is reportedly in the works), I'm very happy with the light. I'm very tempted to buy a T10LC2 also, but I can't really justify it.

:welcome:

You dont understand, I have a strange phobia about being bitten by birds and the name of this light invokes it. Seriously though, I appreciate the reply and now you have me considering it again lol. Now if I can just get a consensus vote on whether the hotspot is as big as the t10c2 all will be well with the cosmos.

Thanks again for the warm welcome.

 

[Lighthouse one]

No matter what you get...there will always be some minor point to pick about a light. My Eagletac T10C2 is a one of the best lights I have...quality and performance. If you want---try to find the T10C2 model- only uses 123 size batteries....has a great wide spill- and, why are you planning to hit things with your flashlight? I have hammers for that.

 

[polkiuj]

Hey Mjolnir, I know it says that but it is practically copied from all other Eagletac light reviews. =D I'm just saying that it will suffer a little cos it has a less textured reflector. In no way did I mention that the beam will be bad. Just not as good. =P

Unfortunately I disagree on OP reflectors being smooth. My Fenix LD10 has a textured reflector but it still has really bad rings. =(


Lighthouse one, I don't really wanna be caught carrying a hammer walking around at night. =D Don't go well with our police eh? At least a flashlight might be a conversation topic whereas a hammer will land me in jail.

The new Eagletacs are coming this weekend, together with the fixes for the old ones (silicon ring). Oh the choices... >.<