First HID Recommendation

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Thanks throwjunkie.

Found this, resistor mod for ballast. Maybe this is it for the 65W vs 50W thingy. Seriously the price is really the same, and my run times indicate there really is a difference (still have to wait for 2 more weeks or so for my second 65W ballast).

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...uot-55W-quot-Ballast-to-get-an-extra-18W-Bulb

Need some heat management improvement in the form of tape + heat sink compound i guess, even then the tube gets hot and passes it down towards the end and heating the batteries inside. (this will happen with any high-power tube light).
If its always cold at night there in the USA then there is no issue, of course. But 2 nights ago we had 32 deg C (90 deg F nights!!)
 
so far I'm only getting heat in the cooling fins on mine but its not much the tube seems to only be as warm as my hand You need copper tape 2100? I can send you some if you cant find any. I use the 3M stuff has great adheasive. what I do is wrap it around the ballast 1 full wrap then I clean the adheasive off with denatured alcohol all the way till the last inch this way you have good thermal conductivity through most of it the tape. It has a backing on it so you can pre measure the lenth by wrapping it and test fitting it before you remove the backing the adheasive is strong but very thin.

Joe
 
Throwjunkie said:
so far I'm only getting heat in the cooling fins on mine but its not much the tube seems to only be as warm as my hand You need copper tape 2100? I can send you some if you cant find any. I use the 3M stuff has great adheasive. what I do is wrap it around the ballast 1 full wrap then I clean the adheasive off with denatured alcohol all the way till the last inch this way you have good thermal conductivity through most of it the tape. It has a backing on it so you can pre measure the lenth by wrapping it and test fitting it before you remove the backing the adheasive is strong but very thin.
Joe
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Thanks for the offer I appreciate it, but I'm happy with aluminum foil + CPU thermal compound. :)
 
Good news, my new 65W ballast arrived, it is the same 5000K colour temp and the brightness is exactly the same (and I do mean exactly) as my first 65W ballast.

Shooting these 2 lights together with the left and right hand at a building 1000-1200m away, no joke.
 
Awesome cant wait for some shots may just go ahead and order the 65
I posted some beam shots outside of the X6 today if your still wanting to see how it stacks up the other lights used DBS 2.5A XM-L and 50W ebay hid to compare. Your gonna like the X6.


Joe
 
2100 said:
Good news, my new 65W ballast arrived, it is the same 5000K colour temp and the brightness is exactly the same (and I do mean exactly) as my first 65W ballast.

Shooting these 2 lights together with the left and right hand at a building 1000-1200m away, no joke.
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I was IM'ing with Leo Liu earlier today and he said that the 65W's are all 6000K. 2100, I was wondering if your 65W ballasts actually say 5000K on them somewhere or if that is your conclusion based on comparison to your other 6000K lights? (I can see the difference in your pictures but I was just wondering.) Also, we were talking about the new model with the 7800mah battery pack if that makes a difference.
He was very good to deal with, and the new 65W 7800mah model is $172.20 USD shipped to the U.S.A. I am going to get my first HID flashlight soon and it is a tough decision between this and the 35W MOZO. I do like how the Ali light has an adjustable focus though. I know.... I should probabally just buy both!
 
Brandocommando, I work as a wedding photographer so its based on guesstimation, so hopefully I am not wrong even though it can be viewed as an expert opinion but you know photography shd be viewed as an art rather than from a technical asepct. LOL! I have a known Amondotech 3152 @ 4300K, will take some pictures with WB set manually at 4300K and 5000K and try to find out the colour temp of the bulbs. Manually set, it shd appear as so-called "white" on my calibrated S-IPS monitor. :)
The 2 x 65W ballasts are very consistent in WB and intensity - no diff.

It doesn't matter with the 6600/7800mah models, they are just batt packs and probably just slot it into the nice aluminum carrying briefcase before shipping.
6000K is based on the specs. A lot of the aliexpress specs are somewhat wrong - so have to bite the bullet somehow and find out. (that's why we have a nice forum here! :) ).
 
I ran the new bulb in a little while, seems like it is very slightly more bluish. Yes the 1st one is approx 5000K, the second one is approx 5300K? On my monitor, it is not 6000K. Actually found out that my Amondotech is like below 4000K even actually. (compared to 840, 4100K) I have some Philips 830 CDM-Tm HIDs (3000K), 20W HIDs, the new very small HID bulb, for my home lighting. I also have XM-L for comparison, i am happy to have won the XM-L lottery, the emitter does not have a green tinge.....actually one of the new 65W ballast have a very very slight green hue.

Rotate the bulb around, the colour temp/hue would change quite a bit. Let it heat up a bit, no issue. That's the fun thing about HID, you need to heat it up, you can rotate it for different colour temps, darn ballast has a strange buzzing noise etc. :)
 
brandocommando said:
I I am going to get my first HID flashlight soon and it is a tough decision between this and the 35W MOZO. I do like how the Ali light has an adjustable focus though. I know.... I should probabally just buy both!
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Do note that the adjustable focus still would not focus quite a bit the light into a tight hotspot. It is no Trustfire X6 or Olight SR90 and definitely far from a LED + aspheric. But if you do appreciate a slightly floodier spotlight for closer range work (eg below 300m esp below 100m) and you need PURE HIGH LUMENS (eg for hitting trees as they suck up light pretty well), this would be great.

PS. I would not recommend getting the 7800mah batt option, as the light does run hot and I can hardly see anyone using this for more than 30 mins at one go due to the main tube + batteries heating up during your hot summer nights. With the 6600mah, it can do ~ 75 mins @ 65W mode. If its winter time probably there isn't an issue. So save yourself about $16 and use the money to get a Ultrafire C8 XM-L if you don't have any LEDs. Then you will get the lower output needs covered. :)
 
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OK I see some info has been posted I'm posting some pics of mine Battery contacts on Battery
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I have a question to ask regarding this ballast on the picture,

I have got mine with 24W bulb a week ago and tried to put it on a test run about an hour ago, and almost ended up in electrocution.
I know that this ballast is made to be used in a premade container and everything, but for the love of god there should be some note on it about presence of HIGH VOLTAGE on the aluminium ballast case... damn... I even now fel some slight pain in my torso area from the shock as I accidentally touched ballast case while it was turned on.

But that's not why I'm writing this.

I wanted to know whether any of you with this ballasts have ever had any problems in the form of - xenon bulb starts to repetitevly flicker (blink) in about 15-20 seconds upon turning on, accompained by sparking sound coming comming from either the ballast or the bulb itself? It's almost as if there some crack opens in bulb as it gets somewhat warmer in these 15-20sec upon turning on, and then as if high voltage slips out of the bulb, causing loud spark noise although with no additional visual efects other than it is clearli visible that whole bulb goes off, and on...and off...and on.... in a constant intervals of about 5 spark noises per second...

I'm driving my balast off the 12V car accu and even tried computer PSU - effect is the same. Tried changing conectors between ballast and power source as I have read on the forums that people are having "flickering" problems in their cars - but I figured it out it has to do with something else than conection - and obviously it is something other...

Next thing I'm gonna do is to write a reclamation letter to the online shop where I bought it, but wanted to know if any of you had that problem and what was the cause and how did sou solved it?

Thanks for any info.

Cheers
 
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