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ThirstyTurtle

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I'm looking for something very similar to my Coast PX45 but brighter and not 3xaaa! I really want flood to throw (even maybe JUST flood?) but I want a big circle of light to see ALL around me on the ground when taking my dog out at night.


1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

_X_I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in Wilmington, NC.
_X_I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :-)

____Less than $25.
_X_Less than $50.
____Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

_X_I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
_X_Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
_X_Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

_X_LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

_X_I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
_X_I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

___I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
_X_I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
_X_I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
_X_I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
_X_I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
_X_Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
_X_30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
_X_Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
_X_I don't care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
_X_I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
_X_I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

I've considered a "mule" but I almost feel that it will cast TOO wide of a beam (~180°?) whereas my PX45 is more like 90° I think and it's sufficient. My main gripes with the PX45 are
1)Max brightness isn't enough
2)Not regulated
3)3xaaa, aaa's aren't a problem but 3 is a pain as all of my chargers only charge PAIRS
4)Plastic lens

Thanks!
 
I'm not an expert, but led lenses did good flood to throw, mine was a m14, but there are all different sizes etc,..mine was brill for walking the dog.
 
I'm not an expert, but led lenses did good flood to throw, mine was a m14, but there are all different sizes etc,..mine was brill for walking the dog.

Ya my Coast PX45 is pretty much an LED Lenser and actually has slightly higher specs than the M14 you mentioned.

I have a hunch that what I'm looking for is more of a "budget" light from DX.com or something. I doubt Fenix, or 4Sevens, or any of those companies make any flood to throw or mules at all soo....I wouldn't mind a P60 XM-L or XP-G mule and drop it into a Solarforce body but all of the mules I've seen are quite expensive (~$50 for just the dropin) and most are under-driven in my opinion.
 
Hi ThirstyTurtle.

LED Lensers are OK but they might be outside your $50 price limit.
I would personally not go the DX path as they are sometimes hit-and-miss, and you have to wait a L O N G T I M E to get anything from them.

I would recommend going over to shiningbeam dot com. You would be hard pressed to find better service, great budget lights and at a great price.

If your looking for flood to throws, have a look at the following, which are all great lights.

Romisen RC-29 II, runs on AA's. $19.75
Romisen RC-C6 II, runs on CR123A's and rechargeables. $16.75.
Romisen RC-C8 II, runs on 18650's, CR123A's and AAA's. $20.75.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi ThirstyTurtle.

LED Lensers are OK but they might be outside your $50 price limit.
I would personally not go the DX path as they are sometimes hit-and-miss, and you have to wait a L O N G T I M E to get anything from them.

I would recommend going over to shiningbeam dot com. You would be hard pressed to find better service, great budget lights and at a great price.

If your looking for flood to throws, have a look at the following, which are all great lights.

Romisen RC-29 II, runs on AA's. $19.75
Romisen RC-C6 II, runs on CR123A's and rechargeables. $16.75.
Romisen RC-C8 II, runs on 18650's, CR123A's and AAA's. $20.75.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the DX.com tip, I've already decided I won't be ordering from them anymore (last order took 6 weeks).

All of those seem GREAT except they seem a bit underpowered...my PX45 does about 200 lumens and even the brightest of those on a li-ion seem to only boast around 200 lumens. I was really hoping for an XM-L or maybe high-powered XP-G flood to throw...anything like that?
 
The z5 aka v-shark is a surprisingly well built budget, zoom to throw light.

Can be had for well under 20 on ebay, and bunch of trusted online sites have them.
Keep a close eye on the modes description as most of these don't have memory therefore the output cycles with each on/off click.
 
The z5 aka v-shark is a surprisingly well built budget, zoom to throw light.

Can be had for well under 20 on ebay, and bunch of trusted online sites have them.
Keep a close eye on the modes description as most of these don't have memory therefore the output cycles with each on/off click.

The Z5 looks like a great option! The only downside is that I currently have only 1 18650 and a charger that holds only 1 at a time. I really need to buy a better charger and more 18650's if I go that route and I'll really want some AW IMR's which won't be too cheap...
 
Disclaimer - it's only the second FTT light I've owned, but I can't recommend the TF Z8 enough for value.
 
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The Z5 looks like a great option! The only downside is that I currently have only 1 18650 and a charger that holds only 1 at a time. I really need to buy a better charger and more 18650's if I go that route and I'll really want some AW IMR's which won't be too cheap...

I've seen it on ebay in single cell format now, can't say whether it's available at other sites tho.

Thing is, most ebay sellers don't name their products because they are either replicas or no box sale.
Search "xml led" with a buy it now option and price low to high on ebay and you will see after a few items that the zoomie lights start. Look through the descriptions and seller ratings and pick the one you like. For those prices its worth the wait.
 
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