got my M4 devastator last night.... truly devastating >>>

[Outdoors Fanatic]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

The HO-M3T is even better: it gives more throw and better runtime. I run mine on 2x18500, it throws better than the IMR-M3T and the MN21. It's like an MN15 on steroids: laser-like beam with more oomph. Simply great.

 

[DimeRazorback]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

I also use the HO-M3T in my M4!

I love it!

 

[knightrider]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

Nice photo DimeRazorback!

Love the M4 design, easier to hold than the M6. Plenty of options with it to.

 

[DimeRazorback]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

Thanks knightrider!

I too love the M4's design.
There is just something about it that makes it so comfortable!

 

[Fusion_m8]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

The M4 was the first Surefire I ever laid my eyes on and since that day, in my mind Surefires are the Ferraris of the flashlight world! Not everybody can afford one but everybody wants one, and no matter how many Surefires a person may have, they always want another one!

 

[knightrider]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

no matter how many Surefires a person may have, they always want another one!

Ain't it the truth! The entire lineup calls to me endlessly. Sometimes I sell one and I have to re-buy it later on.

 

[Fusion_m8]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

Did a CRAZY thing tonight :devil:

I STRONGLY ADVISE NOT TO TRY THIS AT ALL!

I ran my M4 with 3x Unprotected Spiderfire RCR123s(+1 cell dummy) with the MN60 and (WOW) its brighter and throws much better than BOTH the MN60 & 4xCR123s or a LF EO-M3T with 2x AW Protected 17670s.

Its a very dangerous thing to do...but that super bright beam is darn addictive!

Next I might try running it with 3x IMR16340s, albeit with cells that are about 4.0v-4.1v and not fresh off the charger... hope that MN60 holds up!:duck:

 

[signal 13]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

I also use the HO-M3T in my M4!

I love it!

I've got the HO-M3T in my M962 weaponlight and it kicks the poo outta the MN10. The MN10 has that oval beam that just drives me nuts! The HO-M3T is just pure awesomeness.

I'm partial to my M4 over my M3 or M3T because I can just slip it into my front or back uniform pocket with ease. No rubber rings to get hung up. The M3 & M3T are IMO the best looking SF lights, but the M4 is my favorite for duty use!

 

[kelmo]

After reading this thread I went to the spare parts bin and whipped together a MN60 host. KT2/C3 tube/A19/Z something clickie switch. Plus I had to order batteries from Lighthound. Of course shopping at Lighthound is like shopping at Costco, you never get away clean. I ended up spending way more than I had planned. You guys are killing me...

 

[TriChrome]

eldopa, I'm curious to know what other lights you have owned to compare to the M4? Since I've never owned one I'm trying to gauge it's performance.

 

[jaundice]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

Did a CRAZY thing tonight :devil:

I STRONGLY ADVISE NOT TO TRY THIS AT ALL!

I ran my M4 with 3x Unprotected Spiderfire RCR123s(+1 cell dummy) with the MN60 and (WOW) its brighter and throws much better than BOTH the MN60 & 4xCR123s or a LF EO-M3T with 2x AW Protected 17670s.

Its a very dangerous thing to do...but that super bright beam is darn addictive!

Next I might try running it with 3x IMR16340s, albeit with cells that are about 4.0v-4.1v and not fresh off the charger... hope that MN60 holds up!:duck:

Fusion;

Why shouldn't someone do this? I've run amn MN60 and MN61 in my megalenium (3x18650) light. It runs fine, if a little overdriven. The MN60 is rated for 4xcr123, or 12v. Of course, the actual voltage supplied by the 4xcr123 would be less, due to voltage sag under load. So please, tell me more.

-John

 

[leukos]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

Why shouldn't someone do this?

Here's an MN60 that was run for only 2 hours on 3x Li-ions:

 

[Fusion_m8]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

No worries John; running the MN60 on RCR123s will be over driving the lamp as Li-Ons cells sag less than Primaries under the same load. This is because the internal resistance of Li-Ons are less than Primaries. That's why the MN60 on 3xRCR123s appears brighter and whiter than on 4xCR123s because its being overdriven.

The main reason I mention not to try this is because the UNprotected RCR123s are being severely overdriven under the current draw of the MN60, which means they can explode quite violently and with enough force to rupture the flashlight body. Thus causing the user physical harm even possible death.

Secondly but less dangerous would be that the overdriven MN60 has a high chance of exploding as well, messing up the very expensive to replace KT4.

Eric really elaborates all this in his thread about Li-Ons and compatible lamps. Especially the part: Voltage Concepts of Tactical Lamps and Lithium cells

Fusion;

Why shouldn't someone do this? I've run amn MN60 and MN61 in my megalenium (3x18650) light. It runs fine, if a little overdriven. The MN60 is rated for 4xcr123, or 12v. Of course, the actual voltage supplied by the 4xcr123 would be less, due to voltage sag under load. So please, tell me more.

-John

 

[Fusion_m8]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

Yeah:

I wasted my MN16 and P91 when running 2xIMR18650s, they lasted about 2mins each before they became EXTRA CRISPY... $70 up in smoke...expensive lesson about over driving lamps.

Here's an MN60 that was run for only 2 hours on 3x Li-ions:

 

[Neo9710]

Re: got my M4 devastator last night.... truely devastating >>>

Can you post up a pic of the light mounted on your AR? I was about to mount my Olight M20 Warrior on it but Im curious!!