Help identifying surefire weapons light...

Robertesq1

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I bought this light several years ago in a group buy and never used it... Not even sure what modsel light it is....

Was thinking about putting it on an AR but, don't know what mods or new LED drop ins there might be to boost her up to 2009 lumens technology... Any help much appreciated:

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Is that stock? It came out of the box looking like that?

I'd almost swear it's an M4 head mounted on a Millennium body.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

-Trevor

Edit: You might try calling Surefire directly and seeing what your serial number matches up to.
 
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Part of that does not look like a real Surefire. :thinking:

I don't know, maybe it's just uber rare?

Oh, sorry the (black) handle is not surefire but the light and mount are... at least that is what I believe and it came as a single unit, it was not a build or hodge podge....that I remember. It was a sanctioned AR15 group buy so I would be suprized if it was a fake or gray market but who knows. Just wondering if anyone knew if there were better LED drop ins I could up the lumens/run time with.....
 
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I was working off the assumption that the handle wasn't SF as they didn't start producing that model until relatively recently, AFAIK.

I was using the SF website as a reference, but SF doesn't list all the products they actually sell as I discovered on one of the threads detailing tails and heads. :candle:

-Trevor
 

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No, I know the handle isn't SF. The heatfins and specifically the area behind the heat fins just don't look like standard SF is all.
Curious!
The tailcap is unusual to me as well.............
 

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here's another pic (with a C3 for compairison).... The mount actually says ARMS on the handle but it looks like it is a part of the surefire body:

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The head is probably a "shock absorber" designed to help Incans survive recoil.

Which means it probably won't take the newer P60-series drop-in - although if we could identify the body, you might be able to mate a standard C/G/P/Z head to it.

I'm curious to see what the final decision is.

-Trevor

Edit: Check out this Surefire light - similar if not the same type of mount.
Edit 2: A "throw lever" mount. How many batteries does it take?
 
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The head is probably a "shock absorber" designed to help Incans survive recoil.

Which means it probably won't take the newer P60-series drop-in - although if we could identify the body, you might be able to mate a standard C/G/P/Z head to it.

I'm curious to see what the final decision is.

-Trevor

Edit: Check out this Surefire light - similar if not the same type of mount.
Edit 2: A "throw lever" mount. How many batteries does it take?

That is the exact mount.... and it takes three batteries

The head kinda looks like this (Bezel Diameter - 1.62 inches ):

http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/M962_large.jpg
 
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9 volt then - I'm guessing the following:

1. It is a genuine Surefire
2. It is an older, likely discontinued Surefire - possibly a limited run?

Unfortunately, I don't have enough experience with those heads to give you guidance on upgrades. From glancing at some of the SF weapon lights, at least couple of them will take stock SF LED modules.

If you're not super-attached to that, you could get a Frankenstein combo for roughly $200. (Surefire 6P, weapon light mount, tail pressure pad and Malkoff drop-in)

-Trevor
 

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Looks like an older Surefire weapons light I saw in photos once - they've been paring down the metal used in them for a while now to save weight, and that looks a lot like an M3 head. It's probably an older generation of that last picture you posted, as they never were good about labeling generations of a model.
 

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It's an old, but not original Millennium Series Universal WeaponLight.

It's an M962UUxx
where xx is the length of the tape pressure switch remote cable in whole inches. (I'm guessing nominal 6" cable which was standard for the UUxx)

It's not a limited run, but it does feature the current "M3" (Z46-CB) Crenelated Bezel that replaced the one with cooling fins for a while as the standard Z46 bezel before they released the scalloped version (shown in the post by Robertesq1)

The LU10 Lamp Module Housing Body is one of the earliest styles.
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SureFire then changed to the 'square style':
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And currently have removed every last scrap of metal not required in order to save weight.

Same goes with the MH90 Millennium Series Universal Housing Body - it's been on a diet over the years too!

So the M962UU06 features:
LU10 Lamp Module (MN10 Lamp Assembly)
MH90 Millennium Series Universal Housing Body
M50 ARMS Throw Lever Picatinny Rail Mount
UU06 Remote Tape Pressure Switch TailCap
 
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Robertesq1

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Wow... I knew the brain trust here would have this info. Are there any drop in lamps that will up its specs??
 

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Any lamp upgrades for the "M3" (Z46-CB) Crenelated Bezel.....Other than the SF High Lumens incan????
 

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OK I think I found my answer...
Lumens factory makes relacement lamp assemblys for the M3 for the MN10 factory bulb...


EO-M3 (9V, 380 Lumens) Extreme High Output Lamp Assembly US$20.00

and the

HO-M3T (9V, 380 Lumens) High Output Lamp Assembly US$22.00

Both are the same price, same lumens and cost.... What the heck is the difference???
 

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One is for the regular M3 head and the other is for the larger Turbo head.
You want the E0-M3


Thanks (I didn't even realize they were incans) but it looks like its the only the way to go unless I take it apart......
 

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If you are up to it you can take the M3 head apart and get a LF D36 LED module and put that in.

I did it and Donn did it and since he put up a thread about it several others have followed suit.
 
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