How to tell Bin Numbers?

[Justintoxicated]

I got some LUX III emitters from future and I have no idea what bin they are...Im going to use them anyways but I was wondering if there is a way to tell?

Thanks,
JI

 

[jcciv]

No way to know with emitters.

 

[hotbeam]

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jcciv said:
No way to know with emitters.

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... unless you power them up and measure the voltage across the LED and observe the colour using a reflector. Even that, you only have 2/3 of the bin code.

 

[Justintoxicated]

oh damn...Well I just put it in the mag and its REALLY white, almost a little blue, but I think it is slightly Overdriven off 3C since its fresh batts...Looks like I got a winner..Then again, I don;t have much experience with the lux III's I just know the light is really white and it was only $8.50 woohoo!

I'm a happy camper /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[PhotonFanatic]

I just received some emitters from Future and the bin code is shown on the packing list as the Lot Number. Did you see that?

 

[Justintoxicated]

ahh yes
ok here they go LED God's let me know How I did.

LXHL-NE98 (Cyan) Bin P3GC Guess it doe snot matter for this one I jsut hope its close to my other one..

LXHL-LB3C (Lux III blue) Bin Q4KB x2

LXHL-LR3C (Lux III Royal Blue) Cat-N4LY//MS

LXHL-MD1D (Lux Star HD Red) R4FR x3

LXHL-ND98 (Lux Star-O) LD Red P4GR//MSBX

* LXHL-PW09 (Lux III White Emiitter) SX1J x2 ????????Is this any good? its nice and white in the maglight.


Thanks for the help..My Only Rant is that I got the wrong HS's the ones they gave me suck, they told me the wrong HS were for the wrong lights last time...At least acordng to their size. My last order I had 2 good ones and 2 bad ones...Seems they got the sizes for the part numbers mixed up so now I have 6 useless HS... GRRR...

 

[MR Bulk]

I think that's a rather nice color bin code. Only color bin I never liked were the V's, and even then I had to shine'em side by side with other bins to really tell. All Lux IIIs have been highly satisfying in my humble 200+ experience...

 

[Justintoxicated]

Cool, now I just need to sputter the lense...Somehow...

 

[TheFire]

I've also had really good luck with the X1 bin - nicer than the WA by a long shot (at least for all the ones I've gotten). The J forward voltage is a bit of a prize, though, even if it isn't T rated flux.

 

[Justintoxicated]

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TheFire said:
I've also had really good luck with the X1 bin - nicer than the WA by a long shot (at least for all the ones I've gotten). The J forward voltage is a bit of a prize, though, even if it isn't T rated flux.

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wow so every letter thas a meaning? Damn I love this hobby...I impressed the parents I think I'll have to make some more for presents...Kind of expensive but what the hell...Now if only I could have purchased the correct heatsinks....GRRRR Im callin future tomarrow....I bet they tell me tuff luck since thats what I ordered even if they told me the wrong dimensions...It sucks even more that the additional time I waited was for those crappy HS I can't even use, not to mention $10 Shipping + the right ones it is going to cost me...

Thanks for the advice guys! What exactly is the prize with the J? Low voltage?

 

[TheFire]

Yeah. The way it works is this:

First letter is Flux (brightness) rating. S is OK, T is good, and U is, well, unobtanium (as Mr. Bulk calls it) right now.

The second two letters tell you the color binning. WO is generally considered to be the "best possible" bin in this arena, but WA, XO, and X1 are also considered to be quite good.
Here's the luxeon color bin codes overlayed with the CIE chromaticity chart (thank you Hotbeam):

The last letter is the forward voltage. Lower is usually better, but K is fairly standard. The lowest luxeon III's go is G (starting at 3.03 volts), followed H, J, K, M, and N.

For more info, see the bin datasheet:
http://www.lumileds.com/pdfs/protected/AB21.PDF

I'm not sure what heatsinks you're talking about using... I would expect that you could make your own out of nearly anything handy - I've used quarters in one light...

 

[yaesumofo]

Where did you get theese Emitters from?
I want some too.
Yaesumoro

 

[Justintoxicated]

again, I got them from future, but they do not gaurantee bins as far as I know.

souns like I got a mediocer light, thats fine, the price was right.

I still don't understand the chart fully, But the bin-code info was great stuff!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

 

[gadget_lover]

I can't find the future website. Can you post that?

Daniel

 

[Justintoxicated]

www.future-active.com

The-Fire, did you mean to say W0 is also quite good? I got a littel confused in your post.

How do the bin codes for the other Color LED's stack up?

 

[IsaacHayes]

LXHL-NE98 (Cyan) Bin P3GC !! Wow, it's not a very high output, but look at that Vf! G! Wow, I wonder how many volts that is? (3.03) Plus it's a color bin3 so it should look more like cyan and not greenie.
Good info, I'll check my lot #'s and see if I can find anything on my 5W's as they were out of stars..
Next order you do, see if you can get 1st class mail shipping as it will be cheaper. I know other people on here have done that, I'm interested to see if they still will do that.

 

[Slick]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif The copy of this diagram (hotbeam's) that I've seen has the green regions reversed with the yellow ones.... I wonder which version is correct?

 

[Justintoxicated]

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IsaacHayes said:
LXHL-NE98 (Cyan) Bin P3GC !! Wow, it's not a very high output, but look at that Vf! G! Wow, I wonder how many volts that is? (3.03) Plus it's a color bin3 so it should look more like cyan and not greenie.
Good info, I'll check my lot #'s and see if I can find anything on my 5W's as they were out of stars..
Next order you do, see if you can get 1st class mail shipping as it will be cheaper. I know other people on here have done that, I'm interested to see if they still will do that.

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Well the cyan will probably suck for my application then, I was going to use it in series with another older Cyan I had. The older cyan looked mroe green but was very bright...Ahh well it will still make a damn nice headlight on my RC I suppose...Guess I'll have to find out the hard way... :P

Just a prototype design anyhow /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[TheFire]

I believe the other version (the one that's not linked to) is correct. Yes, I did mean W0 as being most desireable.

 

[Justintoxicated]

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TheFire said:
I believe the other version (the one that's not linked to) is correct. Yes, I did mean W0 as being most desireable.

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odd the LED does not look yellow at all, if anyting it is seems bluish or greenish in certain spots.