incand .....

[roadie]

i am wonder if the surefire m6 is still the most powderful hand-held incand using primary battery cells on the market with a whooping 500 to 600 ++ lumens .

[the 600 ++ lumens is on new sets of batteries which i read somewhere here ....]

any other choices available with output roughly same or more than a M6.

1. must be incand. (no hids or leds type)
2. 'small' hand-held
3. primary cells
4. no mod needed
5. perform almost same or better compare to a M6

any ?????

............ :shakehead

 

[MikeSalt]

I am aware of no other flashlight that can match that criteria. I was considering buying this flashlight, then I realised that for a lot less money, I could build a ROP. Slightly bigger, but it holds charge for about an hour, and can be recharged, giving guilt-free energy. It is also more powerful.

I could not justify running 6x CR123As, which would only last 20 minutes. Here in the UK, a 123A cell can cost up to £7. So that is £42 per 20 minutes of use, which is £126 per hour, about $252 an hour in my book. Ouch!

 

[FILIPPO]

I think that the most powerful INCAN flashlight that uses primaries is the M6...
I can only think about SF Beast but it's HID...:shrug:

maybe someone else can help you :thumbsup:

 

[roadie]

u see ... eariler this yr i managed to build my first big mod, the magmod ... i did but it was rechargeable.

thinkiing of having one in near future which works on primary cells as easier to maintain when in remote places

presently a surefire d3 is all i have for big light and a uk sl6 , well there's always room for another bigger better light, right?

 

[roadie]

Here in the UK, a 123A cell can cost up to £7!

Ouch so so expensive!!

.... by hor, what is cheap in UK ..... none .... hahahhahahaa oops

and the worst thing, my fav boat is being produced in uk .... RHIB, no way for that type of exchange rate from S$ to pound also ....

 

[js]

roadie,

The M6 is it. No other light that powerful uses primary cells.

Also, keep in mind that the M6 has become very versatile of late!

With primaries, you have three lamp choices:

MN21: 630 lumens, 20 minutes.
MN20: 400 lumens, 60 minutes.
MN15: 200 lumens, 2.5 hours.

And Lumens Factory just came out with a lamp assembly that is designed to run from R123 Li-ion cells in the MB20 battery holder! It is between the MN21 and MN20 in brightness and runtime. The MN61 and MN60 can also be tried, although the MN61 is way overdriven, and pulling too much current for protected cells (recommended), so the MN60 or the LF lamp would be a safer choice.

Not to mention the more exotic and hard to find rechargeable solutions.

BUT, I actually use primary 123's and the MN15 in my M6 at home. On two stacks of three 123's the MN15 is driven to the peak of incan perfection. And the slower 2.5 hour discharge takes advantage of the very flat discharge curve of Li-Mn-O2 chemistry cells, so for the full first half of the run, you can't tell that there is any decline in brightness. Love those 200 lumens!

And the MN20! OMG! That is my absolute favorite incan beam in the world. It kicks a**.

Gotta love a light like the M6. I can provide lots of links if you want to know more about any of the above.

 

[LED61]

+1 on JS post.

The MN15 is so efficient and sooooo white for sooooo long!!!

 

[sysadmn]

There are lumens factory bulbs in D26 that claim 550-700 bulb lumens. The 550 has a 12V version; the 700 is 13v - I don't know how it would perform on 4xCR123a. I suspect you'd also run into the D26/36 form factor limiting the reflector design.

Given your constraints, M6 is it...
If only you'd stretch the definition of incandescent to include HID

 

[js]

BTW,

The lumens figures I quoted are torch-lumens. To convert to bulb-lumens, divide by .65. i.e. only 65 percent of bulb lumens actually make it out the front of the light.

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

Don't overlook the new Wolf-Eyes M300 Lion. While it might not be as bright as the MN21, it's between the MN20 and MN21. However, it's rechargeable, the runtime is impressive and the discharge curve is totally flat because it uses 3X18650 li-ion.

The M300 is the new "not so poor man's M6".

 

[LED61]

I can second that. The beam quality of the M300 is nothing like the M6, but it's a nice wall of bright white incan light.