Just a mild rant... moving and replacing all lights

N8N

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Do some people just not pay attention to the way the lighting around them looks?

In a weird situation, my landlady decided that she wanted to move into the house I was renting, but since the house she was moving out of was only 9 miles from my office, we're essentially swapping and I get a way shorter commute. OK, that is cool. BUT. I made some offhand comment about going to the store to buy light bulbs so I could go through and make sure all the lights were working and she assured me that she had plenty (she has several other rental and/or fixer upper places). She showed me two huge boxes full of random spiral CFLs and a few LEDs in a whole random range of color temperatures.

So far I've bought two boxes of the new Feit "60W" LEDs from Costco (all set on 2700K for now) and ordered some round frosted "40W" 2700K G25 for the upstairs bathroom. And replaced two globes that were broken off the stairwell light fixtures. Total investment probably <$100 but I figure it is something I need to do now, because the sooner I do it, the sooner I enjoy a proper-looking, uniform color temp when I flip the switch.

Yesterday I had occasion to use the basement bathroom which isn't really "my" space but currently has no tenant. You guessed it, it's a four bulb fixture and has three "daylight" spiral CFLs in it. Why? WHY??? Simply by using the right lighting you can NOT make the bathroom look like a janitor's closet in a dental school but I guess that didn't happen. (you may not agree with me, but I'm a big proponent of 2700K-3000K everywhere except for kitchens, workrooms, etc. I grew up with incandescent lighting and I doubt I'm going to change my opinion.)

I have a feeling I'm going to have to buy some more G25s to donate to the cause. The only thing I'm not sure about is if four "40W" globes will be too bright for that small bathroom or not or if "25W" would be more appropriate. (upstairs bathroom is huge, it has five "40W" globes above the sink, and one "60W" fixture in the middle of the ceiling.) I guess I will have to experiment, it'd be way easier if I didn't have to order them but could actually find them in stores... I guess the easy way is to put the regular bulbs in there one by one until the light level looks about right and then see how many lumens per bulb for four bulbs I'd need to achieve that level.

We've come so far in the past 10-15 years with LED lighting, these are great times, and yet people aren't using them but recycling old low-CRI, inappropriate color temp spiral CFLs... I worry she's shooting herself in the foot staging places that she wants to sell or rent by using such poor lighting choices. Don't really know how to bring that up politely though.

I should note that I live in Maryland, so the cost of LED bulbs appears to be subsidized as it's relatively cheap. I remember BITD driving to MD to buy "L-Prize" bulbs even though I was living in VA at the time. Sadly my ex has all but one unopened package as she somehow talked me out of my bedroom torchiere and side table light when we split up and I wasn't thinking right at the time (they had cool mica shades too, stupid stupid)
 
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I can sort of understand not caring about color temperature. Sort of.

I will never understand being ok with wildly unmatched bulb colors in the same fixture.
 

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I've used Feit 3000K LEDs for many years. My favorite bulbs.

Years ago I had the impression that Feit was a cheap *** Chinese brand but over time I've had better luck with them than Cree, Philips, etc. Best dimming performance I've experienced although to be fair I haven't tried any of the ones that supposedly look warmer as they dim, I'm just evaluating on lowest light output and noise level
 

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Do some people just not pay attention to the way the lighting around them looks?

In a weird situation, my landlady decided that she wanted to move into the house I was renting, but since the house she was moving out of was only 9 miles from my office, we're essentially swapping and I get a way shorter commute. OK, that is cool. BUT. I made some offhand comment about going to the store to buy light bulbs so I could go through and make sure all the lights were working and she assured me that she had plenty (she has several other rental and/or fixer upper places). She showed me two huge boxes full of random spiral CFLs and a few LEDs in a whole random range of color temperatures.

So far I've bought two boxes of the new Feit "60W" LEDs from Costco (all set on 2700K for now) and ordered some round frosted "40W" 2700K G25 for the upstairs bathroom. And replaced two globes that were broken off the stairwell light fixtures. Total investment probably <$100 but I figure it is something I need to do now, because the sooner I do it, the sooner I enjoy a proper-looking, uniform color temp when I flip the switch.

Yesterday I had occasion to use the basement bathroom which isn't really "my" space but currently has no tenant. You guessed it, it's a four bulb fixture and has three "daylight" spiral CFLs in it. Why? WHY??? Simply by using the right lighting you can NOT make the bathroom look like a janitor's closet in a dental school but I guess that didn't happen. (you may not agree with me, but I'm a big proponent of 2700K-3000K everywhere except for kitchens, workrooms, etc. I grew up with incandescent lighting and I doubt I'm going to change my opinion.)

I have a feeling I'm going to have to buy some more G25s to donate to the cause. The only thing I'm not sure about is if four "40W" globes will be too bright for that small bathroom or not or if "25W" would be more appropriate. (upstairs bathroom is huge, it has five "40W" globes above the sink, and one "60W" fixture in the middle of the ceiling.) I guess I will have to experiment, it'd be way easier if I didn't have to order them but could actually find them in stores... I guess the easy way is to put the regular bulbs in there one by one until the light level looks about right and then see how many lumens per bulb for four bulbs I'd need to achieve that level.

We've come so far in the past 10-15 years with LED lighting, these are great times, and yet people aren't using them but recycling old low-CRI, inappropriate color temp spiral CFLs... I worry she's shooting herself in the foot staging places that she wants to sell or rent by using such poor lighting choices. Don't really know how to bring that up politely though.

I should note that I live in Maryland, so the cost of LED bulbs appears to be subsidized as it's relatively cheap. I remember BITD driving to MD to buy "L-Prize" bulbs even though I was living in VA at the time. Sadly my ex has all but one unopened package as she somehow talked me out of my bedroom torchiere and side table light when we split up and I wasn't thinking right at the time (they had cool mica shades too, stupid stupid)
Yes, it is better not to say such trifles to people with unknown reactions. Just replace them quietly, don't throw out the old light bulbs just yet, put them aside in case she has questions
 

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Yes, it is better not to say such trifles to people with unknown reactions. Just replace them quietly, don't throw out the old light bulbs just yet, put them aside in case she has questions

That's what I'm doing. I'm on her good side because I already fixed the dishwasher and am just about to dive into the washing machine; however, I am not going to give her receipts for the bulbs and just eat the cost because only a handful of lights were not working when I moved in and this is more because I just cannot stand "daylight" CFLs all over the place. But it was one of the first tasks I did when I moved in because the sooner I'm not living in a low-CRI, institutional looking world, the more homey the place feels. Last thing I need is to have my home feel like the Oregon State Hospital... Everything I removed is in a box that I'm going to put in her bulb box.

Fluorescent bulbs still working? What to do with them?

See above - I'm going to leave them for her to use or not as she wishes. I just can't imagine a tenant with a light out asking for a bulb, getting one of these, and being happy though...
 
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