Looking for a headlamp with some throw

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stutho

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Hi all,

Both my wife and I are mountain leaders and the main function for the headlamps is night-time navigation in the hills. Our headlamps see a lot of use (almost every day).

A couple of years back I bought a pair of PT apex headlamps and modified the both of them with a Soul SSC emitter and a khatod reflector. These were almost perfect. I especially liked the ability to switch from a spot to a flood. However... the lowest setting was too bright and the plastic that PT used was of very poor quality. Both cases have failed, been repaired and then failed again been repaired again and failed again!!! The hinges are especially bad but basically there is nothing good about the case.

So I am looking for a pair of headlamps Ideally with a similar beam patten to our modded Apex and extended run time. They must also use AA (the ability to also use 14500 would be nice). Waterproof. Aluminium case. Cost is dependent on quality ideally I am looking to spend about £80 but I could go up to £150 per a lamp if the quality is there. I can't find exactly what I want and hence the post - I realise I might have to change my spec a bit.

My thoughts are

Zebralight H51 - and take spare batteries (not Ideal)
Spark SX5 - unfortunately it is not on sale yet and I can not get any expected date out of them (looks good though)
PT Apex!!! I have read that the plastic has been improved - but I don't trust PT any more.
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Thanks for reading.


1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :-)
____Less than $300.



3) Format:
____I want a headlamp.



4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:
____LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)




6) Manufacturer:

____I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?
NiMH AA but if it can also take 14500 then that would be great plus



8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).
____I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).



9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)
but having a flood option also would be great


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

Need to be able to nav for several hours in the dark say at 80+lumens with the ability to step up the lumens for brief periods to 150+ lumens


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).

12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):


____I don't care but must be usable with gloves



13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.


I want multiple light levels. Ideally programmable but not to complicated


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).



15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

I would consider a red filter a plus but this must be in addition to white light and is not essential at all



Thanks Again

StuTho
 
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Thanks Yamabushi,

I was considering look at the HP11 for a while but it just looks fragile to me! If anyone got one of these and is regularly using it in the outdoors, then I would love to here you opinion.

I am leaning more and more towards the Spark SX5 (apparently SB flash lights have them). I am also thinking about ignoring my requirement to accept AA's and therefore I might also look at the ST6-460NW

The more I look the more conflicted I get!

StuTho
 
The Spark SX5 looks to be a nice headlamp. It has the ability to use either AA, 26650 with standard battery packs, and there's even an optional 18650 battery pack that holds 4 18650's, which would give you incredible run times! But even the AA or 26650 would give nice run times on lower modes or medium modes. The only concern is whether the reflector is large enough to provide good throw with a large XM-L LED. But it looks to be of adequate size.
 
Have you considered the Fenix Headband + regular flashlight? I use the headband with a 47's mini123 and it works great. Ive also used a fenix ld10 with it and 47's quark x 123x2 with it. I prefer the mini123 for the small size and light weight but the others felt fine. If you want to use AA/14500, maybe a 47's quark gen 2 would be nice. Or if you want a bigger 18650 light, maybe the fenix pd32.

Cant recommend the Fenix Headband enough, it just opens up your options. Turns you edc into a headlamp.
 
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A thrower?
I have a Fenix HP11 XP-G R5 4xAA's.
It is the best thrower.
Reasonably well built.

I have an Energizer Hard Professional.
It is better built, and 3xAA, but it throws poorly, or not as well...
 
Thanks for all your replies. In the end I broke most of my own criteria and went with a new Zebralight h600 (and a couple of spare batteries). The torch is not ideal but it will do.
Super mini review

  • Robustness - 5*
  • Size - 5*
  • UI - 4* If you could go straight from low to turbo without cycling then It would have 5*
  • Burn time - 4*
  • Beam - 2* I would trade some of the flood and a little of the wide hot spot for a 20% tighter but brighter hot spot
  • Battery versatility - 0*
  • light spill into eyes!! - minus 2* I see light spill when jogging / hiking at pace. I can get around this by wearing the light very high on my head.

Overall about three and a half stars out of five
 
You should spend some time in the Headlamps forum. Lots of great info there, and good discussions about usage, tech, tint, etc.
 
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