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hi guy's new here I thought I knew what I was after until I found this forum. I'm looking for an all round light for multiple uses witch include camping, hunting, and racv (not sure what it's called else were in the world but it's being on call doing roadside assistance) as this is all hours of the day/night something on the larger side would be good in case it is needed for attitude adjustment and possibly defence. as well as sitting down to light up the area to do wheel changes and find faults under the bonnet/hood. 1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

__x__I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in Victoria Australia

__x__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :-)

____Less than $25.
____Less than $50.
____Less than $100.
__x__Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
__x__I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

__x__I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
____Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
__x__Holster carry.
__x__Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

__x__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
__x__Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

__x__I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
__x__I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

__x__I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
____I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

__x__I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
__x__I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
__x__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

__x__Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
__x__Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
__x__5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
__x__30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
__x__50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
__x__3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
__x__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
__x__Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

__x__I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

__x__A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
__x__I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
__x__I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
__x__Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
__x__Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments I was just thinking of getting a Maglite originally as they are somewhat common in Australia but i'm open to all suggestions the light will live in a car beside the seat all it's life and is likely to be treated a bit roughly I was thinking something around 300mm + in length let me know what your thinking even if it's buying one out of the box for now and building something up down the track thanks in advance albert
 
Hi Bert!

i think you'll be hard pressed to find some of your features for under $150 but here are some suggestions:
Jetbeam RRT-0 (Ring Control, AA, 500 lumens)
Fenix LD22 (Mode Selector button, 2xAA)

What I might suggest is that you get 2 flashlights - an EDC and a larger flashlight that uses something light 18650 batteries. Being in RACV, I'm sure you would benefit from a rechargeable model that you can charge from your car's 12V socket (or do you guys have inverters in your cars too?)
If you have a moment, maybe check out some of these:
EagleTac GX25L2
Sunwayman V60C
Olight S80

So if you have 2 lights, you can approach the dodgy customer with the larger flashlight and if they turn out to be harmless you can switch to your EDC to check out their engine bay :D I don't think we need to go into what happens if they aren't harmless :whistle:
 
A Foursevens Quark Tactical should meet all your requirements - I would go with an X model for a floody beam since most of your needs seem like close task stuff. I find its moonlight mode perfect for reading in a car with dark-adapted eyes as well.

Might also consider getting a 1xAA body for it for those times you want an EDC pocket light.
 
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Sounds like you want a no-fuss, well-made workhorse to me. IMO I'd check off the selector ring; last thing you'd want to do is be fiddling around with a ring while trying to change a tyre :)
Have a look around for some tactical-style lights; GoingGear and HKEquipment are a few off the top of my head. Then look for some local places like LiteShop, LedTorchShop and LedTorches.

It's a little difficult to find larger, more substantial lights in AA form but if you're open to using 18650s with a cheap $15 charger you'll have a lot more to choose from and better runtimes.

The Klarus XT11 is pretty popular amongst law enforcement agencies; I didn't like it so much so I went for a Eagletac G25C2, the T20C2 is a nice solid contended too.
 
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thanks for the suggestions so far keep them coming i'll look up those models listed. the main reason I suggested regular battery's is there easy to get anywhere anytime but im open to all suggestions even getting 2 lights and if there is a better light out there for the money I'm all ears I was originally thinking something like this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAGLITE-...ping_Hiking_Lamps_Torches&hash=item231b464321 to get something quickly or I was even thinking a 4 or 6d with a drop in led that would cost about $120 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TERRALUX...2449760?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item51aa79a4e0 any thoughts on going down that path?
 
after looking at your suggestions I think i'm likely to end up with 2 lights something smaller for under the dash looking at fuses etc and something bigger. for possible defence and lighting up a large area with a good run time. I also think that chargers would annoy me as it's another thing i'd have to carry seen I might take the service ute or the tow truck depending on the job.
 
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another couple i'm considering is the led lenser p17 and fenix tk60 . what other torches are similar in size and quality to the p17 tk60 and Maglite 3d led ?
 
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Here are a few suggestions that use the more common disposable batteries:

Small Light: Jetbeam PA40, FourSevens Quark Turbo QB2A, Nitecore EA series
Large Light: Fenix TK50, TK60, EagleTac SX25A6
 
You may want to consider a floody headlamp that'll run on AAs - many like the Zebralight brand.
I have some road cones in my trunk, and a multiple led traffic wand (about $30) to use as a road flare. I'll tell the person who I stopped to help to go 40 yards down the road and use it to warn people to move over. I'll also put on a class III traffic safety vest.

If you want to illuminate YOU, the tire and area you are working on, you might want to consider one of those 10 million candle power super spot lights that you can stand on the ground and point in your direction. For example sears sells the THOR X Colossus. typically they'll run for 30 minutes and can be recharged from your car cigar lighter. $55-$75.
 
so out of the fenix tk60 Maglite 3d led and led lenser p17 how would they all rank in durability as in getting dropped thrown in tool bags etc I think i'll end up with one of these 3 as there all a similar price here in aus. so if you could rank the 3 lights and give me some pro's and con's to each one that would be great
 
I'm a little biased since I just bought it. You should look into the G25C2 MKII but with the flip top filter accessory. Has enough power to throw pretty far and with the fliptop filter accessory just use the diffuser for a flood type of beam. It's like two flashlight in one with just a flip of your finger.
 

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