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Hath

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Recently, I became interested in lights. My brother purchased a CMG Reactor and I liked, but I wanted something brighter so I went and bought the most expensive light at Galyan’s. That ended up being a PolyStinger, but the PolyStinger isn’t as white as the Reactor. Now I’m looking for a LED light that is brighter than the Reactor. The one thing I noticed about the Reactor was that when I used rechargeable NiMH batteries, the light was VERY dim. I asked one of the employees at Galyan’s about it, since I’m new to this flashlight thing, and he told me that LED lights were very sensitive to voltage and rechargeable AA only give off 1.2 volts.

I searched around the web for more information and came across here, and I must say, this is by far the most useful website I came across. Everyone seems to be incredibly knowledgeable and it seems like I can purchase things from people here that I wouldn’t be able to get anywhere else. After reading for hours and days on end about almost everything related to LED lights, I learned a whole lot. But with all that new knowledge, I now have new questions.

First, I am looking for a LED light that uses rechargeable batteries. I do not like the idea of purchasing an incredibly bright flashlight, only for it to consume $5 an hour because of batteries. From what I see, one of the best choices is to go with either a Badboy or a Madmax. Is the Badboy 500 noticeable brighter than the Madmax? And with these two, I need to purchase a separate housing, and the main thing I notice is that most people use a Mini Maglite or Brinkman Legend. Are there any other models that I would be able to use? I like sleek designs like the Inova X5 or several of the Surefire models, but the Inova doesn’t use LS and the Surefire and X5 models use CR123A batteries… which leads to my next question. Do they have rechargeable CR123A batteries? I’ve looked around the web, but couldn’t find any information on it.

Then of course, when I think the brightest light possible is the Badboy, I stumble across posts mentioning 5W LS. Are there any 5W LS out there that use AA? I then read about 5W LS coming from Surefire soon and I don’t know if I want to wait 5W to hit the mainstream market. Are the 5W models out there much more expensive compared to the 1W LS?

When I first started looking for a LED light, I was thinking about spending only around $40. I thought that the Inova X5 was the brightest one out there, since that was all I had seen. I was wrong. Now I’m all confused. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks. I think flashlights may become my new secret hobby. My girlfriend already thinks I'm crazy for spending more than an hour reading about flashlights, haha. I keep telling myself that after I get a second light, that's all... somehow I doubt it.
 
Welcome Hath!
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I've always been happy with the Arc LS using rechargable NiMH batteries. I get about 1.5 hours of runtime. But you will have to buy the 2AA battery holders - the whole thing will cost you about $150 or so. They are sold on ebay for about $90. There was a kit offered a few weeks ago, you could have had one for $10 each !!

http://store.yahoo.com/flashlight/arcls.html

They may get around to selling a 5 watt version, but the configuration does not use rechargable batteries.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=31;t=000907
 
Either the MadMax or the Bad Boy will let you use rechargeable batteries. They're on Dat2Zip's site Dat2Zip's site. Those are the best bang for the buck and you'll definately make your budget. The BB500 and the MadMax will pass your brightness test.

You should also check out the homemade and modified light section of the forum. The brightest 1 Watt Luxeon out there is going to be Mr. Bulk's LGI. Its a little more expensive at $55 and uses 3 AAs, but its amazingly bright for what it is! I love it. I think you need to wait a day after you recharge the AAs though before you can use them in the LGI so the voltage drops.
 
Whoa. The LGI destroys everything else. Does the LGI take rechargeables? If only he had it in stock...
 
Oh, is the LGI a drop in, or does it come with the body when ordered?
 
Hi Hath,
Welcome to CPF!
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The LGI is a complete flashlight:
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Craig did a review on it: LGI

Another choice may be Electrolumens' Blaster II, bigger, but with larger optics for improved throw.
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Electrolumens

Hope this helps,
 
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Well I was looking for something pretty handheld, but since the LGI is just too superior to everything else, I think that's the one... if it can use rechargeables.

The Badboy 500 is already $40 I think, plus I need to purchase a mag or legend, the optics and kroll tailcap, which brings the total well above the $55 LGI.

How do I find out when an LGI is in stock? Too bad I can't go to the store and pick one up.
 
Well I see something that looks like it going on eBay right now. How long do batteries last in it? Is it regulated?
 
Ooops, I saw you talking about eBay, jumped into the middle of a thread and assumed you were talking about Wayne's "StarLux"? I didn't see an LGI on eBay...I'll check again. Well here's the StarLux info anyways!
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I think he says 24 hours full brightness and then 48 additional diminishing...GREAT emergency torch, very dependable & sturdy!! I believe he's also dropped his price a little.

<a href="http://elektrolumens.com/StarLux/StarLux.html" target="_blank">Click here for Elektro Lumens "StarLux" details:
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About two hours of bright light followed by another 4+ hours of decreasing 3 Nichia to 1 Nichia LED output. See http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=000033 for the graph.

Its unregulated. That same thread has Slick saying he uses NiMhs in his LGI once they sit overnight after being charged.

If you have questions about the LGIs, E-Mail Charlie himself! [email protected] He'll answer all your questions... He might even have a few stragglers already made. Its how I got mine.

FWIW, the Dat2Zip sandwiches are drop in kits. There is nothing to buy except the 2 AA Mini Mag and maybe a mineral glass lens. But, the Bad Boys are regulated, so you get constant brightness over the life of the batteries.
 
Yep, looks like an LGI or one that someone else has modded, only says "one of the top designers". I trust Mr.Bulk's work and they're "blinding"!!! I'd email the seller to find out if you thought about bidding. Mr. Bulk typically sells his for $55 shipping included.

I had seen some of Wayne's StarLuxes recently on eBay also, that's why I butted in with the info...
 
$55 with shipping INCLUDED?!? I'm definitely going to have to contact him soon. That's a crazy deal. When I first read about his lights a few days back, I figured it was way out of my price range so I didn't even bother inquiring about it at first.

Is there ANY downside at all? It seems to take NiMHs, it's extremely bright, it's not bulky, and it has a 2 hour peak brightness.
 
Downside is relative, so is bulky. I wouldn't necessarily call it bulky, but its too big for my EDC needs. YMMV. My ARC LS or Bad Boy MiniMag mod are more convenient for EDC as this sucker is 3 AAs long! I currently use the LGI as a 3D Mag substitute, as its a much better package in size and weight and its got about 2.5 times the brightness as my EDC LEDs.

Just get the damn thing. You'll be happy. It will be your first, but it won't be your last!!
 
I built my own version of the LGI. I use NiMHs in it. Be very carful, with cells right off the charger I've seen current draw of 2.6amps. More than a few minutes operation could let the smoke out, you can't believe how bright it is though at 2.6amps. Even a day after charging current is around 1.6 to 2.0 amps and the bezel gets very hot in 10 minutes. Unless you are willing to be very careful I'd stick to alkaline. If you are going to use NiMHs you could remove the rubber trim from the bezel to help the heat escape.
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Interesting. So the light is actually BRIGHTER with NiMHs? My brother's reactor was incredibly weak when I put in rechargeables. I thought the batteries were drained so I tried another pair with the same results.
 
Thanks for the information dark start. That second one sounds very interesting, too bad it has a really hefty price tag + high demand.

I had two more questions I forgot to ask, what does EDC stand for? I figure it has something to do with walking around outside, but I couldn't figure out exactly. And why does everyone always modify the way they write maglite?
 
EDC stand for Every Day Carry
maglite use cheap batt & easy mod,also itself is cheap?
 
I think ( and I will be corrected on this ) EDC means something like EveryDay Carry - you always have it on you.
m*gL*te is a very evil company that sues anyone making innovative flashlights. We here do not even speak their name!
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