I emailed Mag customer service and was told that an LED version ***MAY*** be available by the end of the summer. I know that people here don't necessarily like (or dislike) Mag, but a value priced, high quality LED from them would be something I would at least have to try. They told me that no pricing info or anything could be released at all. Has anyone else heard anything about this???
Mag LED coming soon?!?
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Flow
Newly Enlightened
Um. Being a Mag junkie (although not so much after spending some time here) this is great. But then again, there are already a bunch of replacments available. MagmaLED, Opalec, and bb400 for my mini, EverLED for my D, are just the ones I plan on getting. While 'official' is always a plus, I'd have to see some reviews first.
I wonder if it'll be a drop in or if they'll want you to buy a new light. I've yet to see anything for the mini that doesn't involve removing the piece that says 'Do not remove'. I can't see how you would do it otherwise. Would be nice for it to not void the warranty though.
Were you asking about the C & D cells, the mini, or just in general?
I wonder if it'll be a drop in or if they'll want you to buy a new light. I've yet to see anything for the mini that doesn't involve removing the piece that says 'Do not remove'. I can't see how you would do it otherwise. Would be nice for it to not void the warranty though.
Were you asking about the C & D cells, the mini, or just in general?
I don't remember exactly how I asked, so probably in general. I didn't know that there were LED bulbs currently available for the D models. Where is there info on them, where can you get them? Do you still use regular D batteries? Thanks!
Flow, the Inretech module is a bi-pin Luxeon replacement module that you can use without removing the "do not remove" disk. Also the MagmaLED from http//www.techass.com . They aren't as bright as a Luxeon, but they are a good replacement for the T-1 bulbs.
Matt, the D cell replacement lamp is an EverLED. It's a PR based Luxeon with which you simply replace your lamp. There are several threads running in the LED forum regarding it.
Matt, the D cell replacement lamp is an EverLED. It's a PR based Luxeon with which you simply replace your lamp. There are several threads running in the LED forum regarding it.
shankus
Flashlight Enthusiast
* mattz357 *
Also there are the Inretech drop-in mods:
Trilight
Super6
Helios
Mega6
Inretech website
Also there are the Inretech drop-in mods:
Trilight
Super6
Helios
Mega6
Inretech website
inverno
Newly Enlightened
Don't forget the Epieon from LEDcorp.
It may not be as advanced as the EverLED but it may well be more available and is Lambertian and thus focuses better. It's the same old regulated vs. resistor issue, and the resistor is sometimes a good idea.
But yes, an official Mag LED would be interesting. About time, considering Brinkmann's lineup.
It may not be as advanced as the EverLED but it may well be more available and is Lambertian and thus focuses better. It's the same old regulated vs. resistor issue, and the resistor is sometimes a good idea.
But yes, an official Mag LED would be interesting. About time, considering Brinkmann's lineup.
Flow
Newly Enlightened
Oh. Hadn't looked much at Inretech's stuff and I guess I didn't look close enough at the MagmaLED. Mabey I should add something from Inretech to my shopping list...
Quickbeam
Flashlight Enthusiast
Doesn't matter how much it costs, or how well it works. A company like Mag carrying an LED light will really help bring LEDs into the mainstream and develop acceptance for LED lights in the minds of the general populous. I really hope this happens, the sooner the better.
shipinretech
Enlightened
All of InReTech's products to date have been either fixed focus or flood, so we usually cannot compete head to head with the brightness of the incredibly small points of light that reflector based lights can generate. Our fixed focus adapters do produce a very nice even light with a relatively tight focus. When you turn on a flashlight with our adapter, it is focused without any fuss. There also are no shadows inside our beam pattern; we believe this to be an advantage because a more true image is produced.
Endurance of light is one area where we can and do beat the incandescent lights all hollow. If you are having a bad day and need a flashlight, it is very likely that your bad day will only last as long as the batteries. All of our one watt (1W) and less power LED adapters will run for considerably more than one week on a standard set of alkaline batteries. Not intense brightness at the end of a week, but survival brightness; enough to read a map. If you walk in the woods, live where the weather turns ugly, or just want a dependable light for your glove box, our product is one you want.
Endurance of light is one area where we can and do beat the incandescent lights all hollow. If you are having a bad day and need a flashlight, it is very likely that your bad day will only last as long as the batteries. All of our one watt (1W) and less power LED adapters will run for considerably more than one week on a standard set of alkaline batteries. Not intense brightness at the end of a week, but survival brightness; enough to read a map. If you walk in the woods, live where the weather turns ugly, or just want a dependable light for your glove box, our product is one you want.
inverno
Newly Enlightened
Yes, unregulated lights do have that "advantage". You may feel silly wielding a Mag 3D that's no brighter than an Arc AAA towards the end, but it will keep lighting up for you.
shipinretech
Enlightened
I would have to say that one of our biggest conceptual breakthroughs as a company was realizing that advantage and that we could produce and market it.
I do not think any of our customers who need light will feel silly about having light when they need it. I have spent a lot of time in the dark in bad situations watching incandescent lights die. If you need it brighter, add fresh batteries. Our TRILIGHT product will provide what we call "survival" light for more than a week. If you can't get to batteries for more than a week of continuous use, a little less light is the least of your problems. Any light is likely to be a comfort. This is why we produce unregulated products as our staple product. When you need a light, InReTech provides you with a light you can depend on.
Yeah, I probably get too serious about this, but every year we lose people in the Oregon woods who lose their way.
I do not think any of our customers who need light will feel silly about having light when they need it. I have spent a lot of time in the dark in bad situations watching incandescent lights die. If you need it brighter, add fresh batteries. Our TRILIGHT product will provide what we call "survival" light for more than a week. If you can't get to batteries for more than a week of continuous use, a little less light is the least of your problems. Any light is likely to be a comfort. This is why we produce unregulated products as our staple product. When you need a light, InReTech provides you with a light you can depend on.
Yeah, I probably get too serious about this, but every year we lose people in the Oregon woods who lose their way.
BuddTX
Flashlight Enthusiast
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mattz357 said:
I know that people here don't necessarily like (or dislike) Mag, but a value priced, high quality LED
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Let me address this for a sec. There have been many comments and threads about this.
This is VERY brief cause I have tons of work to do.
When mag first introduced their lights, they were considered the best.
They are still considered (EVEN HERE!) to have one of the best built physical lights around.
It's just the actual beam that comes out of their light that is soo disapointing.
For many years, many of us were dissapointed in the beam, but thought that there was nothing better than mag.
Mag has not improved or kept up with technology over the years.
When we finially find a better light (for me it was the Princeton Tec Surge) we ask ourselves why couldn't mag make them?
You know what I TRUELY HOPE? I hope that MAG introduces a LED light that just BLOWS every other competiting light out of the water, and sells it for 15-20 dollars, and is at every wal-mart in the world!
Imagine a penlight from mag that blows away a customized, hand made, hand tweaked, hand picked Mr. Bulk creation, his LGI!
Imagine a keychain light that blows away ARC AAA?
Imagine a 5 watter that blows away streamlight and SureFire!
Why do I want that to happen? So the "BAR" will get raised, and everyone else will have to come up with new, better lights.
mattz357 said:
I know that people here don't necessarily like (or dislike) Mag, but a value priced, high quality LED
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Let me address this for a sec. There have been many comments and threads about this.
This is VERY brief cause I have tons of work to do.
When mag first introduced their lights, they were considered the best.
They are still considered (EVEN HERE!) to have one of the best built physical lights around.
It's just the actual beam that comes out of their light that is soo disapointing.
For many years, many of us were dissapointed in the beam, but thought that there was nothing better than mag.
Mag has not improved or kept up with technology over the years.
When we finially find a better light (for me it was the Princeton Tec Surge) we ask ourselves why couldn't mag make them?
You know what I TRUELY HOPE? I hope that MAG introduces a LED light that just BLOWS every other competiting light out of the water, and sells it for 15-20 dollars, and is at every wal-mart in the world!
Imagine a penlight from mag that blows away a customized, hand made, hand tweaked, hand picked Mr. Bulk creation, his LGI!
Imagine a keychain light that blows away ARC AAA?
Imagine a 5 watter that blows away streamlight and SureFire!
Why do I want that to happen? So the "BAR" will get raised, and everyone else will have to come up with new, better lights.
Rothrandir
Flashaholic
wow budd, you are dilusional /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
i don't mind if they do, so long as they keep the reguler incans they are using now...i would hate modding a led to a led /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
i don't mind if they do, so long as they keep the reguler incans they are using now...i would hate modding a led to a led /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
shipinretech
Enlightened
BuddTX,
I think that Mag Instruments sees themselves in the machining business primarily and the flashlight business incidentally. They have not produced a new design since the Solitaire. I hope that they are willing to partner with one of the companies in the lighting solutions business, and I bet you can guess who I hope they will partner with. (Here is a hint, I hope it isn't one of the companies that overdrives their LEDs by whole number multiples.)
In terms of ergonomics and inexpensive quality machining, nobody comes close to the Mag Instruments products. In terms of simplicity and durability, I have not seen a better product than InReTech's. I doubt that either or both of us will be able to achieve the kind of breakthrough that you are hoping for because neither of us are developing the LEDs.
I think that if you can wait ten more years, you could wake from a sleep to find the light you are desiring today. I hope that Mag Instruments will not rely on the Rip Van Winkle technology development method.
I think that Mag Instruments sees themselves in the machining business primarily and the flashlight business incidentally. They have not produced a new design since the Solitaire. I hope that they are willing to partner with one of the companies in the lighting solutions business, and I bet you can guess who I hope they will partner with. (Here is a hint, I hope it isn't one of the companies that overdrives their LEDs by whole number multiples.)
In terms of ergonomics and inexpensive quality machining, nobody comes close to the Mag Instruments products. In terms of simplicity and durability, I have not seen a better product than InReTech's. I doubt that either or both of us will be able to achieve the kind of breakthrough that you are hoping for because neither of us are developing the LEDs.
I think that if you can wait ten more years, you could wake from a sleep to find the light you are desiring today. I hope that Mag Instruments will not rely on the Rip Van Winkle technology development method.
inverno
Newly Enlightened
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shipinretech said:
Yeah, I probably get too serious about this, but every year we lose people in the Oregon woods who lose their way.
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Were I in their shoes I'd want a GPS receiver that lasts a week on one set of batteries!
The inretech philosophy makes sense to me for single luxeons, but anyone who buys a Helios I would think is looking for just plain BRIGHT to heck with the battery life. I'm not so sure about the Trilight, it's in the middle, but still, a LEDcorp bulb is pretty bright, and ideal for those weeks of runtime. <chuckle> I guess the Trilight is more reliable, though, since one or two LEDs could fail and you'd still have light.
Ideal, I think, would be continuously adjustable regulated brightness as it would serve any audience -- if they could afford it. Nobody makes that in a D-cell light, though. I assume the new 12-LED 4D lantern in Lifestyle Fascination is not regulated and plus, at most it's probably 1-luxeon bright.
[edit] The light that probably comes closest is the EliteMax. Reg'd, Unreg'd, variable in either mode, and a battery status indicator to boot.
shipinretech said:
Yeah, I probably get too serious about this, but every year we lose people in the Oregon woods who lose their way.
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Were I in their shoes I'd want a GPS receiver that lasts a week on one set of batteries!
The inretech philosophy makes sense to me for single luxeons, but anyone who buys a Helios I would think is looking for just plain BRIGHT to heck with the battery life. I'm not so sure about the Trilight, it's in the middle, but still, a LEDcorp bulb is pretty bright, and ideal for those weeks of runtime. <chuckle> I guess the Trilight is more reliable, though, since one or two LEDs could fail and you'd still have light.
Ideal, I think, would be continuously adjustable regulated brightness as it would serve any audience -- if they could afford it. Nobody makes that in a D-cell light, though. I assume the new 12-LED 4D lantern in Lifestyle Fascination is not regulated and plus, at most it's probably 1-luxeon bright.
[edit] The light that probably comes closest is the EliteMax. Reg'd, Unreg'd, variable in either mode, and a battery status indicator to boot.
