Malkoff m60 vs m61

[chriscoobs]

I have had an m61 for a while and just got an m60 because i wanted more throw, but testing last night i could not really see a big difference in the m60's throw vs the m61, it was noticeable but not by a big margin. both the lights were in Surefire 6p's with fully charged aw 17670 batteries. Was it the batteries i was using or is there really not much of a difference? thanks in advance.

 

[Raze]

M60 uses XR-E and M61 uses XP-G.

M61 shoots more lumens down range, thus it appears to throw far despite having a light orange-peel reflector vs the TIR of the M60.


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[djans1397]

I have both of these drop ins. The M60 is an older hand engraved one that's slightly warmish to my eye. It throws pretty well it I really like the tint, hence, I'll never part with it. The M61 is a whiter tint and seems to put out about the same amount of visible light, by has a larger hot spot. I like them both, but the M61 is my bedside light due to the bigger hotspot. I don't think it's your batteries. Hope this helps.

 

[shane45_1911]

Absolutely nothing against Malkoff drop-ins - I have (and love) several - but if you want more throw in your 6P, you are better off getting a Nailbender drop-in. Ask about his 1.4A XR-E with smooth reflector. One of the better throwing drop-ins in a P60 format.

 

[ElectronGuru]

The m61 does better with less voltage, try them both at 6-8v.

 

[slumber]

I read a post by Mr Gman where he stated that the M60 was something like 20% dimmer with one cell vs two. Don't know if that true or not, but to my eyes it isn't a noticeable difference. I do like the more intense hotspot of the M60. I find you can get away with a lower powered light with an intense hotspot instead of a high drain light with a more diffuse spot.

 

[FPSRelic]

I read a post by Mr Gman where he stated that the M60 was something like 20% dimmer with one cell vs two. Don't know if that true or not, but to my eyes it isn't a noticeable difference. I do like the more intense hotspot of the M60. I find you can get away with a lower powered light with an intense hotspot instead of a high drain light with a more diffuse spot.

Yes. My understanding is that with the lower voltages that a single cell provides the malkoffs drop out of regulation. One tedt you might want to try is to run them on either 2 x cr123a's or 2 x 16340's/rcr123a's and seeing how they compare.

Having said that, how are you testing these lights? If you're testing them side by side, or one immediately after the other, you might find that your night vision will be affected by the flood of the m61, and you wont be able to detect any extra throw from the m60.

 

[Owen]

I carry a MD2 w/M60N at work, where I have some specific uses that call for more lux than the M61 provides. The difference is quite noticeable there.
Otherwise, I prefer my MD2 with M61N(w/hi-lo ring), with its broader spot and spill. Though I EDC a little Zebralight SC51Fw, the MD2/M61N gets carried when I know I'll need a flashlight, and it can actually cover about all of my handheld flashlight use away from work, since I have no real need for a "thrower".

 

[mbw_151]

I have M60s and M61s in neutral and neutral/low outputs. The throw is very close to the same. The M60s do not have the spill of the M61s. Overall I feel the M61 is better for most applications, except in rain or fog, then the M60 is my choice. If you need more throw, try Gene's XML Hounddog. The small P60 reflector diameter is definitely throw limiting.

 

[Owen]

Forgot I posted these awhile back in another thread. They're not the greatest pics, but they show the differences fairly well.

M60N then M61N: