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jwblack911

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Hey guys,

I am a long time reader but finally decided to make and account. I have carried an AAA preon for years and its great. I never am without it and i love the AAA platform because its usually bright enough for my uses. However I am always in the woods, Sometimes i night climb and walks are taken spontaneously. There is always a car to fix or a stolen golf cart to find at work in the dark.

I have a few lights but i try to carry via belt pouch when i can : klaurs st11, olight m22, or my surfire fury.

More recently i have bought a fenix e35 and its awesome. My light listed above are a little large to leave in my back pocket and the belt carry is not always the easiest depending on what i am doing that day.

Im looking for an 18650 platform about the size of a fenix e35 but with more options, maybe a better interface and operation. i do prefer a tighter beam profile. and moonlight is a must. and i dont use pocket clips or cigar rings. I also don't need 1000 lumens but i would prefer a measure or around 10000-13000 cds

Thanks guys! and I would like to give a special thanks to the guys who post all they amazingly detailed reviews. selfbuild comes to mind 1st but i have read so much over the years and learned so much. Your time and effort is must appreciated by me.

-Zach





1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
__x__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :-)

____Less than $25.
____Less than $50.
___x_Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

_x___I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
__x__Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

__x__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

__x__I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

____I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
__x__I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
__x__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
__x__I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
__x__150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
__x__90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
__x__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
__x__I don't care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
__x__I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
__x__Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments
 
I carry a 4Sevens Quark Turbo. Should fit what you're looking for. Not sure if it will take an 18650 but I run mine with Surefire rechargables.

There is no need to quote the OP in its entirety - Norm
 
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You might consider the Thrunite TN12

Cree XM-L U2 LED with a lifespan of 50,000 hours
- Uses two 3V CR123A batteries (Lithium) or one 18650 rechargeable battery (Li-ion)
- Firefly: 0.09lumen. 695 hours. low: 30 lumen:65 hours.mid: 95 lumen: 9 hours. max output: 705 lumen. 72 minutes. strobe: 705 lumen. 140 minutes
- Max beam distance:205m
- Peak beam intensity:19536cd

Here's a review
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?369347-Thrunite-tn12-review&highlight=tn12
 
+1 on the Thrunite tn12. I have not used one but its on sale right now and it's output/size puts on my to get list.
 
Oooops, I might have to withdraw my recommendation.

Based on selfbuilt's review the TN12 got 5,800 lux with a 18650 battery. Granted this was with the XML and the current TN12's use the XM-L2 but even with the newer emitter, it will not double the cd.
 
about the tn12- I do very much like the price, size, battery life, operation, and lumen modes on this light. but seriously how does a company claim 20,000 Lumens on such a small reflector?

Im not "flashaholic" but i do know there is know way a factory light could be that high.

I do like the nitecore explorer line but none of their models have a 2 lumen or lower mode :/

I am curious about the brans with electronic memories etc where you have 5 or 6 modes. each with multiple options to choose from. which brands am i thinking on? i have searched a little more tonight and cant remember what brands i saw these features on
 
Pretty sure current TN12s don't have XM-L2. I have very recently got one and its still using XM-L.


Thrunite has changed them a little from when Selfbuild tested it, Throw may be slightly improved with smooth reflector now fitted to them, but not by a lot.


Medium mode is now nearer 250lm.


Selfbuilds test and data is still a very good guide.
 
I just got a Nitecore ec2. And at 37 dollars and free 2 day shipping i couldnt pass it up.

Im still looking into the light that can be my winter time edc.

The nitecore p16 is a little large for my use. im looking for a smaller 18650 light. maybe 5 inches and just wide enough to fit the 18650
 
For me that was the PD35.


i am still on the fence about this light. i really like the light but it doesn't have a moonlight mode and im really looking for a light with a low lumen setting. if the pd35 had a low at 1 or 2 lumens i would be sold
 
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