My First LED EDC

davegLED

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Hi Everyone,

When I was a kid I had an obsession with torches which was recently awakened when I bought my Dad a Fenix L1D. It's a great light and has impressed me so much I realised I need an LED EDC.

I already have a supply of AA Eneloops used for my camera flash so it makes sense to get an AA light.

My choice is now between:

Fenix L1D / L10D
Fenix L2D / L20D
Nitecore D10

What I love about the Fenix lights is that if I buy a L1D I can later buy a 2AA battery tube and turn it into an L2D. This gives me an extra 60 lumens (to 180) and I get two torches in one.

On the other hand I love the aesthetic look of the Nitecore and I see a lot of forum members recommending it.

I'm on the fence, can anyone sway me wither way?

Cheers,
Dave
 
Have you checked out the Eagletac AA lights? I don't have any, but my single-cell T10C or P10C never leave my pocket.

The P10A is two-mode and looks incredibly small. Plus you get the CPF discount.

The interface of the Fenix D models just makes me angry.
 
There are tons of great AA lights out there, and if a 2AA platform doesn't bother you I would highly recommend it as they tend to be better performers all-around. (higher input voltage of a 2AA light results in better driver efficiency and regulation performance, which will either result in more than double the runtime or more than double the lumens or some mild combination of both when compared with a 1AA light).

Keeping in mind, a 2AA light may not fit comfortably in all pant pockets, but holsters are always fun :)

Here's some options to consider (both 1AA and 2AA that you may not be aware of):
Fenix TK20 or E2O
Olight T15 or T25
LumaPower ConneXion
EagleTac P10A and P10A2
Jetbeam Element E3P, Jet I Pro EX V2, Jet I Pro V2, or other AA Jetbeam lights.

There are more out there, so keep your eyes open!
 
Follow the CPF motto ..... "Buy em all" :D

I cannot comment on Fenix (dont own any) but I have a D10
that lives my car keys, its a great little torch :twothumbs

Might work out cheaper if you import them from the US
If you do, then buy from 4sevens, free shipping worldwide
and first class service.
 
The P10A is two-mode and looks incredibly small. Plus you get the CPF discount.

Sorry to butt in, but I'm on the verge of buying an EagleTac light, but I'm confused about the coupon code. I can't find one for EagleTac store, but there's a link to it on 4sevens.com. Can anyone help, I'm confused? :confused:
 
Sorry to butt in, but I'm on the verge of buying an EagleTac light, but I'm confused about the coupon code. I can't find one for EagleTac store, but there's a link to it on 4sevens.com. Can anyone help, I'm confused? :confused:

Since they're all under the same umbrella, the 4sevens/fenix-store code of 'CPF8' should work.
 
Since they're all under the same umbrella, the 4sevens/fenix-store code of 'CPF8' should work.

Cheers :thumbsup: I think I'll go try that now!

Edit: Just ordered a T10C2 and that worked. Excellent!
 
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What I love about the Fenix lights is that if I buy a L1D I can later buy a 2AA battery tube and turn it into an L2D. This gives me an extra 60 lumens (to 180) and I get two torches in one.

My EDC is a L1D CE. What's this about the 2AA body giving 180 lumens? Why? My L1D CE is bored out to take a CR123, which would be the same (even more) voltage as 2 Nimhs. Are you telling me my L1D is putting out 180 lumens? Because it seems only slightly brighter than when running on a Nimh.
 
The L1D, P2D, and L2D all use the same head, so as long as the batteries have the right voltage and can supply enough current, the light should hit 140-150 lumen(real out the front lumen).

Also, for our eyes, it take 4x the output for a light to seem 2x as bright, so the visible difference might not be big at all.

As for which light davegLED, that will depend on how you will use the light. All of them are great lights and they are all geared towards a similar task, the main difference is size and how they function.
 
On my 'heading-out-the-door-desk' I have the Fenix P1D , LOD(q4), and the L1D(q5) and though it sounds silly it depends on the pants I'm wearing and the forseeable situation.
All are great.

(I also have the L2D spare body and cap which gives even more choice)

I'll bet you'll enjoy any of them but that like me you may not be able to stop at one.

:laughing:
 
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My EDC is a L1D CE. What's this about the 2AA body giving 180 lumens? Why? My L1D CE is bored out to take a CR123, which would be the same (even more) voltage as 2 Nimhs. Are you telling me my L1D is putting out 180 lumens? Because it seems only slightly brighter than when running on a Nimh.

A 200 lumen light only looks like a "notch" brighter than a 100 lumen light. Smaller differences are even harder to see.
 
A 200 lumen light only looks like a "notch" brighter than a 100 lumen light. Smaller differences are even harder to see.

also depends on the collimination angle....50 lumens of spot will look much brighter than 100 lumens of flood, especially if the hotspot is the size of what KX2 puts out :nana:
 
Phew - you guys are quick. Thank you all so much for your helpful responses, it was a nice welcome to the forum :thumbsup:

Have you checked out the Eagletac AA lights? I don't have any, but my single-cell T10C or P10C never leave my pocket.

The interface of the Fenix D models just makes me angry.

I hadn't before your post and they look very nice. I forgot to mention I'll be buying from the UK though as it's a Christmas present. The interface on my Dad's L1D seems fine to me but then again it's all I know.

There are tons of great AA lights out there, and if a 2AA platform doesn't bother you I would highly recommend it as they tend to be better performers all-around....

Keeping in mind, a 2AA light may not fit comfortably in all pant pockets, but holsters are always fun :)

Here's some options to consider (both 1AA and 2AA that you may not be aware of):
Fenix TK20 or E2O
Olight T15 or T25
LumaPower ConneXion
EagleTac P10A and P10A2
Jetbeam Element E3P, Jet I Pro EX V2, Jet I Pro V2, or other AA Jetbeam lights.

There are more out there, so keep your eyes open!

Thanks for that list - was a great help and contained many I didn't know of :ohgeez:

Follow the CPF motto ..... "Buy em all" :D

I cannot comment on Fenix (dont own any) but I have a D10
that lives my car keys, its a great little torch :twothumbs

Might work out cheaper if you import them from the US
If you do, then buy from 4sevens, free shipping worldwide
and first class service.

Thanks for the idea - if only it was still £1=$2 that would be a no brainer. I've bookmarked them for the future :twothumbs

My EDC is a L1D CE. What's this about the 2AA body giving 180 lumens? Why? My L1D CE is bored out to take a CR123, which would be the same (even more) voltage as 2 Nimhs. Are you telling me my L1D is putting out 180 lumens? Because it seems only slightly brighter than when running on a Nimh.

Not quite sure but I got my figures from here:

http://www.flashaholics.co.uk/fenix/fenix-l1d.html
http://www.flashaholics.co.uk/fenix/fenix-l2d.html

The L1D, P2D, and L2D all use the same head, so as long as the batteries have the right voltage and can supply enough current, the light should hit 140-150 lumen(real out the front lumen).

Also, for our eyes, it take 4x the output for a light to seem 2x as bright, so the visible difference might not be big at all.

As for which light davegLED, that will depend on how you will use the light. All of them are great lights and they are all geared towards a similar task, the main difference is size and how they function.

Very helpful cheers. I have now decided on a 1xAA torch. I would rather have something small that sits in my pocket than not take the torch because I don't have a belt on for the holster etc etc. The 120 lumens of a 1xAA should be more than enough for what I will be using it for.

On my 'heading-out-the-door-desk' I have the Fenix P1D , LOD(q4), and the L1D(q5) and though it sounds silly it depends on the pants I'm wearing and the forseeable situation.
All are great.

(I also have the L2D spare body and cap which gives even more choice)

I'll bet you'll enjoy any of them but that like me you may not be able to stop at one.

I am hoping this doesn't turn into another expensive hobby - my other is detailing:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=71622

I just spent £35 on a jar of car wax and that is cheap! :eek:

A 200 lumen light only looks like a "notch" brighter than a 100 lumen light. Smaller differences are even harder to see.

Thanks for that info - set my mind on a 1xAA torch. The smaller size outweighs the 100 vs 180 lumens for a 2xAA.
 
L1D with spare L2D body is a nice idea. I just ordered a L2D body for my P2D.
 
I am pretty sure it is going to be either the Fenix L1D or LD10 depending on whether I go for the more agressive styling of the LD10 or not. :shrug:
The LD10 is a better light imho, it has a slightly deeper reflector that gives better throw, and the new line of fenix lights ld10 ld20 pd20 etc have better colour tint in my experiences, where some of the older ones l2d l1d etc sometimes had blueish or green all my newer ones are beautifully white. Plus the styling is better imho.
Thats my 2 cents.
 
davegLED,

I have a L1D as my EDC light. It combines lots of good points:

-It produce a huge amount of light for a 1AA flashlight
-It uses the easiest to find battery in the world
-Rechargeable NiMh batteries makes it usable at very low cost
-Fenix remains the output/runtime king on standard batteries
-It's very compact compared to other 1AA flashlights
-It's well made
-It has one of the best regulation circuit on the market
-The beam profile is one of the best: great compromise between throw, spill and hotspot.

I bought it about a year ago and I LOVE it. Since that time, I became addicted to great flashlights. I've been looking hundreds of forums (especially this one!) and websites to look if a better one exist. I'm still searching...

I did find other amazing lights though. The Olight T15 Q5 (2008 model) is also great (See http://www.light-reviews.com/olight_t15_2008/). But one thing bothers me about it: brightness level cycles are from brightest to dimmest. At level 1, It's a better thrower than the L1D. But the L1D produce more lumens.

Also if you want the greatest output from a 1AA flashlight go with the "EagleTac P10A". Of course the runtime is short. The EagleTac is also well made and it's really efficient for the output. But two things bother me about it. First, it's definitely bigger than the L1D (the heat dissipation looks better though). Secondly, a low enough output mode is missing. The new LD10 has a great new design over it's L1D brother. Whiter tint. Better throw. That's about it. Fenix claim that the circuit is more efficient. If I look at selfbuit 2AA round-up review (because LD20 head is the same as LD10 head) I noticed that efficiency has been lost at High and Turbo mode. It may be better on LOW and MEDIUM though... The biggest lost is the runtime on Turbo mode.
I usually use this flashlight on Turbo, so it's a great lost for me.

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Every flashlight I've mention above has it's 2AA brother.
L1D -->L2D : Here you gain output AND runtime. Efficiency is also better because you slightly more than double the runtime for every level and you also gain output! I simply got both flashlights :twothumbs
LD10 --> LD20 : same as above I guess
EagleTac P10A --> :EagleTac P10A2 At High you gain output, runtime and efficiency. At low you gain output, runtime but you slightly lose efficiency.
Olight T15 --> Olight T25 : STOP!! That the exception here. Those two lights have not much in common except the fact that they use AA bateries. Their respective user interface are different. Have a look at http://www.light-reviews.com/olight_t25_regular/

I recently bought the Olight T25 (regular version). I will compare it with the L2D:

I prefer the user interface of the T25 Regular. But thats me. It has more throw. It's not better!! Just different throw. The heat dissipation looks better than the L2D but I never did the test. I will. It's a little bit bigger but not much. The threads are soooooooooooooooo smooth. It has a removable side clip the L2D don't have. From what I've seen with selfbuilt review (2AA round-up) the L2D is still the output/runtime king over the T25 Regular. But it is so similar, that's not a real point.

You may want to consider the tactical version of this light. Three outputs instead of five. Different user interface. Selfbuilt will eventualy add this version in his 2AA round-up review. If the conclusions of light-reviews.com are true the Tactical version has more output AND more runtime over the Regular version.

You may want a have a look at these threads and read them carefully: especially selfbuit's conclusions:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=186665
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=214890

So daveLED, Fenix L1D Premium Q5 and L2D Premium Q5 are great choices. It all depends on what YOUR needs are, what your preferences are. The user interface of each model are different from each other. At the end, you risk to buy them all... Welcome to the flashacolic world!

Christ
 
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Wow! What a post NightTime. Lots of helpful info there and thank you for your welcome.

I asked Santa for a Fenix LD10 but he said the elves are flat out this year making iPhones:

You talk to Santa live here (as long as you've been good!):

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/santa-claus-live

I borrowed my Dad's L1D last night and several times needed a third hand to hold the torch whilst I was working with both hands. Think I'll have to make a DIY mount to go on a spare mini tripod I have:

MiniTripod1.jpg
 
What I love about the Fenix lights is that if I buy a L1D I can later buy a 2AA battery tube and turn it into an L2D. This gives me an extra 60 lumens (to 180) and I get two torches in one.
On the other hand, if you get a 14500 LiIon cell for the D10, you can increase its output without changing its length...
 
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