Need helping finding optic

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I've got a 6P with a DX 6090 dropin that's too throwy.

Well, last night I got to thinking about looking into any potential way to make it a very floody light, cheaply.

After looking around I've changed my question to try and find an optic to use. So far I'm having very little luck.

I do believe the dropin uses a Cree P4 if that helps.

 

[Scattergun]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

Just open up the reflector a little bit and put an SSC P4 in there... that´ll make a floody beam. I have made several and they are real nice with a big hotspot and a relatively gradient spill...

 

[baterija]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

Some kind of diffusion film applied to the lens is probably cheapest and most effective. Different types are mentioned in various threads.

 

[Search]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

Meh too cheap.

Would an optic work to give me basically a very very large hotspot? Like what the E2DL/LX2/E1B optic does but on a much larger scale.

 

[carrot]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

You should look at the Malkoff M60F then. It uses optics to make a wide flood.

 

[Search]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

You should look at the Malkoff M60F then. It uses optics to make a wide flood.

Too expensive :)

I'm looking to spend a little time and not a lot of money if it's possible.

After looking around I'm trying to figure out how to put an optic on this LED.

 

[carrot]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

If you search for 'optics' on a certain infamous China retailer you may find just what you are looking for.

 

[Search]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

If you search for 'optics' on a certain infamous China retailer you may find just what you are looking for.

I've been looking for an optic forever but haven't had any luck. I think I'm in way over my head at this point.

 

[baterija]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

A couple other ideas:

- Unscrewing the reflector a bit to move the LED away from the focal point might get you a slightly different beam (if it's not horribly ugly.) If you find a point you like some thread locker can hold it in place.

- An emitter swap for an SSC P4 or XP-G should get you floodier because of the different radiation patterns.

- It's already an OP reflector but you could try a little hairspray sputtering to see if it gets you closer to the beam you want.

- Maybe a combination of an emitter swap, reflector adjustment, and sputtering.

- An optic that maintains fit is not that easy. If you can find a suitable optic this thread might give you some ideas for a DIY Malkoff like mod.

- Not really a mod but the SF diffusor add-on is cheaper than switching to the M60F.

 

[Search]

Re: Can a 6P flood like an L4?

A couple other ideas:

- Unscrewing the reflector a bit to move the LED away from the focal point might get you a slightly different beam (if it's not horribly ugly.) If you find a point you like some thread locker can hold it in place.

- An emitter swap for an SSC P4 or XP-G should get you floodier because of the different radiation patterns.

- It's already an OP reflector but you could try a little hairspray sputtering to see if it gets you closer to the beam you want.

- Maybe a combination of an emitter swap, reflector adjustment, and sputtering.

- An optic that maintains fit is not that easy. If you can find a suitable optic this thread might give you some ideas for a DIY Malkoff like mod.

- Not really a mod but the SF diffusor add-on is cheaper than switching to the M60F.

I appreciate the info. I've realized that it would be far out of my modding capabilities to make my 6P resemble anything close to an L4.

Maybe I should just buy one ;)

 

[anthonymo]

get one of these only 8.25 plus shipping with LDF:

28.6mm
Night-Ops Gladius & Falcata
SureFire 6P & 9P (NOTE!)
JETBeam Jet-III-M (NOTE!)
2.84mm
UCL® v.2

from http://www.flashlightlens.com/str/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=ucl_lens

and add this

Add LDF? (Light Diffusion Film)*
LDF stands for "Light Diffusion Film." We take GE brand Lexan® that has a slight texture to it and, using an optical adhesive, apply it to one side of the lens. This results in more of a flood-like beam pattern. It will smooth out the worst beam. The overall light output is almost unchanged - it’s just spread out more. Be warned though, this coating will kill the throw of the light. Only add this coating if you like a really smooth beam and lots of side-spill. We recommend placing the LDF side of the lens toward the bulb for protection against scratching.

Diffusion Lens Comparison

NOTE: LDF does not hold up very well in UV light applications.
No thanks.
Add LDF to my lens - $3.00

 

[Lumencraft (Matt)]

Hi Search,

Here is one option, I have not used this particular optic, but it should fit into the head of your 6p without too much work as it is 25mm and if I am not mistaken the 6p dropins are 26mm. Here is another that is a bit smaller buy doesn't have the white housing on it and it has decent reviews.

This is just a guess because I am not clear on the whole beam angle thing yet, but I think the first optic will give a lager flood beam as it claims a 30 degree angle, and the beam shots given on the second appear to measure 21-15 degrees on the scale.