NiteCore Extreme Reliability - huge dissapointment, Will EdgeTac react?

[Pöbel]

supergravy and deewy

you both write an e-mail to either edgetac or 4sevens.

supergravy: just ask how you can obtain a new switch, Edgetacs warranty is pretty nice - i got my replacement swtich free of charge

deewy: explain that it was not your fault that the lens fell out, you might get a replacement

 

[EngrPaul]

deewy,

My extreme untwisted apart, too.

Please go to this thread to read my experience, and observations regarding waterproofing.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=198804&page=7

I added an o-ring between the bezel and the head, this created a tight fit, since then I haven't had it loosen again.

 

[pobox1475]

I added an o-ring between the bezel and the head

A GITD? If so please post a pic :drool:.

 

[65535]

Things like this are the reason I periodically check anything that can be loosened.

The pivot on my knife, flashlight body's and tailcaps. Anything that can or will unscrew should be periodically tightened. That way you never have to worry about things falling apart.

Maintenance is king.

 

[EngrPaul]

A GITD? If so please post a pic :drool:.

No it's black. It is hidden when the bezel is tightened. :tinfoil:

 

[deranged_coder]

Maintenance is king.

Agreed, I think the main thing that we all need to remember is that a flashlight, just like any other tool that we rely on, will need maintenance to ensure that it is working well.

Now, some would say, "I paid $XXX for this light, it should work flawlessly and needing to re-lube it, add loctite, etc. is just plain stupid, manufacturer YYY should be boycotted until they get their act together, etc." (and we have had so many threads expressing just this sentiment) but IMHO the reality of the world we live in is that anything can and will break down. That is why we should always test that everything works when we first get a flashlight and that is why we need to regularly perform preventative maintenance on our flashlights if we want them to continue working well.

deewy, whether or not you choose to stick with the NiteCore Extreme or Novatac 120T or whatever light, I think the best thing you can do afterwards is treat the light the same way that you would your weapon or other critical equipment. Meaning, I suggest that whatever flashlight you decide upon as your backup you should clean it regularly, check it regularly to make sure there are no loose parts or anything that can cause it to suddenly stop functioning, and otherwise just perform maintenance on it on a regular basis. Some would say that spending that much time and effort on your backup flashlight is ludicrous but then again if it is something so integral to your ability to perform your duties well then IMHO it is worth the effort. Please, take the extra time and effort to keep your lights well maintained. Your life is not worth the risk.

Just my $0.02

 

[deewy]

Actually I checked the light before patrol, I putted fresh batteries in and it was ok by that time. I realised that there is something wrong with the light right after patrol when back in office.

this is a thing, when you are outside in night you do not have time and possibility to check the light before every draw. It is suppose to be a Tactical flash light used in law enforcement. It should be able to take some abuse. I am not saying my did take any abuse, except of being drawn from holster quite often.

I was playing with the light today and I believe I know how this could happen. When changing the light modes you need to twist the head and when you hold it tight and twist - the bezel may get loose. And as I said, if you are outside in night you will not realise that anything happened until carefully examined.

 

[Marduke]

Actually I checked the light before patrol, I putted fresh batteries in and it was ok by that time. I realised that there is something wrong with the light right after patrol when back in office.

Does your gun maintenance consists of just running a mag through once every 6 months?? Or do you routinely do a complete disassemble, inspection, clean, and lube?

Like ANY mission critical component, routine maintenance ensures proper function when needed. This goes for any product, any brand, any profession.

 

[richardcpf]

Mine can also be taken off, but it has never pop out by itself.

The easiest solution for my loose head problem is some teflon tape.

 

[foxtrot29]

One more thing I forgot to mention, maybe because I was trying to forget as this made angry.

When the bezel popped out I accidentaly touched the lens from inside, when trying to clean of the finger print, the red colour film was left on the cleaning tissue. Now the lens have marks from inside and I am afraid the dual-coating is affected.

This is just all wrong, If I had choice I would return the light and got my money back. What a waste... Will again stick to my primary Fenix TK10 and wait for my NovaTac backup to arrive.

Why not just buy a light that's been tried and tested by LEO's throughout the world for many many years.... Go SF, and you'll never go back. :poke:

 

[65535]

I think the basic sentiment here is simple, inspect and protect your lights.

What most people fail to realize is that anything you use is a tool. All tools need maintenance anything from a simple wipe down with a cloth to a full dear down inspection and repair.

What it really sounds to me is that your holster and the way you "draw" your light cause the light to rotate and I'll bet that the bezel ring is what is being held so the light rotating is causing the bezel ring to unscrew.

Now that you know the so called issues you can take precautions.

You're light didn't have loctite on it, remove the bezel keep everything internal face down to minimize dust apply some loctite with a Q-tip screw it back together let it dry and no more issues.

 

[L.E.D.]

How about tightening the bezel extremely tightly?

 

[deewy]

I've decided I will do the loctite thing. However before I do so, as some of guys said to take some advantage from removable bezel, is that I will ask some of my tech. friends if they could make a SS bezel for me.

But still do not know what to do with the marks left on inside lens.

 

[cruisemissile]

You should consider purchasing Surefire products next time and I can assure you, you won't have to worry about something like this happening.

for real. its "cheaper" and more gratifying to go quality the first time than purchase things a bit "cheaper". i'm not saying that Nitecore is garbage or anything,but we all know its not surefire.

although I do find the Nitecore 1AA cool, with the piston design. then again, I own several Surefires, and my edc is an SF.

 

[mr.snakeman]

I've decided I will do the loctite thing. However before I do so, as some of guys said to take some advantage from removable bezel, is that I will ask some of my tech. friends if they could make a SS bezel for me.

But still do not know what to do with the marks left on inside lens.

Hi deewy, before you do the loctite thing, insure that the threads are completely clean and free of all traces of oil, grease, lub, etc.. My choice would be #242 (blue color). If you use a stronger # like 641 (yellow)or - even harder holding- #290 (green,very low viscosity)you might never be able to unscrew the bezel at a later date if, for example, you might want to replace the lens. I hope it works out for you o.k..

 

[Pöbel]

I've decided I will do the loctite thing. However before I do so, as some of guys said to take some advantage from removable bezel, is that I will ask some of my tech. friends if they could make a SS bezel for me.

But still do not know what to do with the marks left on inside lens.

I'll already told you to contact edgetac or 4sevens and ask them for a replacement lens, after all it's not your fault that the bezel wasn't glued in the first place

 

[Ecko]

for real. its "cheaper" and more gratifying to go quality the first time than purchase things a bit "cheaper". i'm not saying that Nitecore is garbage or anything,but we all know its not surefire.

although I do find the Nitecore 1AA cool, with the piston design. then again, I own several Surefires, and my edc is an SF.

Yeah because we all know that not one SureFire has ever failed. :whistle:

 

[tsask]

sorry to hear about the problem. I EDC my Extreme and it's now my primary light. I agree that it should work without any user improvements!

After speaking with Henry at RA/HDS yesterday I would sugest the RA Executive or tactical light! you will have no issues with that guy or his lights.

 

[pobox1475]

What it really sounds to me is that your holster and the way you "draw" your light cause the light to rotate and I'll bet that the bezel ring is what is being held so the light rotating is causing the bezel ring to unscrew.

This very logical assessment make perfect sense to me.

+1

i'm not saying that Nitecore is garbage or anything,but we all know its not surefire.

I have a NEX (and a Surefire L2 in my BOB) with a SS bezel that I use daily. The Nitecore lights are a good value for what they offer. IMHO a light that is used often should have the ability to run off Li-Ion's. Yes I know the direction this will go and some will say that primaries are more reliable (which I carry in case) but having the ability to theoredically start the day with a full cell is appealing IMO.