P61 in a Brinkman Maxfire?

[ugrey]

My fellow CPFer's, I know the Surefire P60, P61 lamp assemblies will fit and work in a Brinkman Maxfire. Will a P61 cause any heat related problems for the lense or the plastic body? Do I at least need a glass or pyrex lense? This light will be my emergency light beside my bed, and with a 20 minute runtime, it will only be used for bumps in the night. You guys know everything. Thanks in advance. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[bwaites]

Well,

I'm running a P61 in a Maxfire rechargeable and did 2 back to back runs with it without any visible damage or problems.

Bill

 

[udaman]

ugrey,

I know nothing, and post useless posts all the time... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
Your G2 is plastic and has a lexan (plastic) lens...SF recommends the P61 for that light, but you don't know if the Maxfire uses lower heat tolerant plastics.
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/228/prrfnbr/878

According to Brock's tests the P61 is about 8.5w. bwaites uses high-current capable NiMH's in his Maxfire R-mod., so those batteries will not get as hot from the 2.3amp draw of the P61, compared to Lithium primary cells.
http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/flash.htm

However, as an emergency light, 20minutes seems an arbitrarly short runtime choice? For a simple drop in replacement this is an easily upgrade...but.

Do you know if the E1 module would fit in as an exact replacement for the Maxfire module (put some cardboard between the battery tail cap contact, to prevent the light from going on, and then see if the E1 module fits securely into the Maxfire? Reason I ask, is if you have any blown out E series modules, it might be possible to do an more adavanced mod., requiring soldering and such, to get you 1hr of runtime for about the same level of higher output light at only 6watts.

That's assuming you don't mind the general beam that the stock Maxfire reflector produces. Since I haven't done the mod yet (on my to do list for next year, as the Maxfire at $20 makes it possible to have 2 of these for the price of one G2), someone else should see if it's possible before I get around to doing that mod. Maybe the 'useful' bwaites can do this, having more free time on his hands than I do at present.

It might be possible to do the same mod to the Maxfire module, but I'm not sure if the plastics in that module can handle the heat, some plastics will melt at 4watts or less. $25 P61 is rather expensive for a $20 Maxfire. I'd rather take the time to solder in $6 bulbs that give me 40+ minutes runtime on Lithium primaries. That way you have bought 2 lights for the price of one G2 +single P61.

 

[bwaites]

UDA and ugrey,

The stock reflector throws a nice beam with the stock bulb. I would love to have a 1.5 bulb that is as bright as the P61 and runs less amperage. In fact, I'd love to have a 200 lumen light in this format!

Modding the stock carrier with another bulb is very doable, I just liked the easy P61 switch, because I had an extra doing nothing!

The plastics seem pretty tough. The outside got very warm to the touch, but not uncontrollably hot, and I couldn't find any damage.

Bill

 

[cratz2]

I just did a runtime test on the P61 in the Maxfire Rechargable and there was no damage and neither the body nor the lens ever got warm enough that I thought any damage might occur.

 

[dano]

Huh... The Maxfire keeps getting better. FYI, it has a glass lens, and the reflector is metal.

Not bad for a 20 buck light...

--dan

 

[cratz2]

I don't think the Maxfire lens is glass, is it?

At least I don't think my rechargable Maxfire has a glass lens.

 

[dano]

My MaxfireLX and rechargeable both have glass lenses. You can remove the lens by unscrewing the black plastic base the bulb goes into, and the reflector and lens come out.

--dan

 

[cratz2]

Well, my Rechargable Maxfire lens feels 'clinkier' than my G2 or Legend LX lenses, but once out, they feel just about the same. The reflector is definately nicer than it could be on a $20 light though.