SF nomenclature question

[mokona2]

Just curious, but if a 6P + A19 is considered a 9P, what would a G2 + A14 be called? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[Size15's]

The 9P is a single body flashlight.
The 6P+A19 is a two-part body.

The G2+AN14 is called the G2R.

The AN14 is the Nitrolon body extension to convert the G2 to the G2R:
(Middle flashlight in this photo)

 

[mokona2]

Thanks Size15. So would the 6P + A19 be considered the 6R instead? Just depends on what LA and batteries you feed it? I was considering converting my G2-YL into the G2R configuration then.

 

[mossyoak]

how many batts does the nitrolon extension accomidate? with it on the g2 could you run 4 123s or would it be to short?

 

[mokona2]

With one A14 adapter, the G2 should now accept 3 CR123s.. with 2 adapters, 4 CR123s and so on.

 

[Size15's]

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mokona2 said:
Thanks Size15. So would the 6P + A19 be considered the 6R instead? Just depends on what LA and batteries you feed it? I was considering converting my G2-YL into the G2R configuration then.

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No, the "6R" = 6P+A14.

The A19 is used to extend the body to house an additional SF123A. The A19 is a black anodised metal component.
This is a G2+A19:

It holds three-SF123As and uses the P90/P91 Lamp Assemblies.
Notice I'm using the G2Z Bezel with it's Pyrex lens (because the three-SF123A models get rather hot - Especially in Nitrolon rather than Aluminium.

The A14/AN14 is used to extend the body to house the B65 NiCad Battery Stick.

The G2 and G2R use the P60 Lamp Assembly
You can swap between rechargeable and SF123As if you have the Z29 Battery Spacer:


Al

 

[ACMarina]

I was trying to get the joke here, and was wondering why "4G" didn't make any sense /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[mokona2]

So the A19 is the correct length but wrong material to extend a G2 to accept 3 CR123s (functional, but wouldn't match the Nitrolon)? Hmm.. Could you trim the A14 down a bit and replace the G2's lense to make it work?

 

[Size15's]

It would be complicated to modify (shorten) the AN14 to the same length as the A19.

Notes:

A14 - Metal tube, black anodised
AN14 - Nitrolon tube in black, yellow or olive drab.

G2's bezel features a Lexan lens that is not user replacable.
The G2Z's bezel (with Hexagonal anti-roll bezel style) has a Pyrex lens. The bezels are interchangeable.

 

[Bogie]

The A14 extender is 1 1/2 the length of a 123 cell you can use 3 cells with a 1/2 cell spacer. I have made a cheep one but a member here (ABTOMAT) makes better ones that I plan to order

 

[Sierra_Bill]

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Size15's said:

The A19 is used to extend the body to house an additional SF123A. The A19 is a black anodised metal component.
This is a G2+A19:

It holds three-SF123As and uses the P90/P91 Lamp Assemblies.
Notice I'm using the G2Z Bezel with it's Pyrex lens (because the three-SF123A models get rather hot - Especially in Nitrolon rather than Aluminium.

The A14/AN14 is used to extend the body to house the B65 NiCad Battery Stick.

The G2 and G2R use the P60 Lamp Assembly
You can swap between rechargeable and SF123As if you have the Z29 Battery Spacer:


Al

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Hi Al,

Confused newbie here. First you mention using the P90 with three 123s with the result that it gets rather hot. Then you mention using the P60 with three 123s. Is the excessive heat due to the three 123s plus the P90, or will a P60 also get too hot with 3 123s?

Let's see if I also have the other parts down:
-The A14 and A19 are metallic and match the 6P
-The AN14 is nitrolon and matches the G2
-There is no AN19
-The A14 and AN14 are longer and accomodate the B65
-Each A19 adds one 123.

I don't see any A19s on the Surefire site or on several other sites.

Thanks,
Bill D.

 

[mokona2]

My bad too. I think the A14 only comes with the KR2-BK rechargeable kit. The AN14-YL will match the finish on my G2-YL, but the length is too long to use 3x CR123s and a P90/91 lamp assembly. I also wanted the overall length to fit into the same pouch since my M3 is a bit too long to fit in my jacket pocket. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif

When adding the A19 to a 6P/C2/D2/G2/Z2, you need to replace the P60/61 with a P90/91 if you want to use 3x CR123s.

 

[Sierra_Bill]

Thanks, Mokona! Do you know the runtime on a P90 or P91 with 3 123s, or where to got an A19?

-Bill D.

 

[mokona2]

According to Surefire: P90 (105 lumens) runs for 60 minutes, P91 (200 lumens) runs for 20 minutes. I got my A19 from Meridian Tactical. Just look under the SF accessories.

 

[Sierra_Bill]

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mokona2 said:
According to Surefire: P90 (105 lumens) runs for 60 minutes, P91 (200 lumens) runs for 20 minutes. I got my A19 from Meridian Tactical. Just look under the SF accessories.

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Mokona,

Thanks again. Now I get it- by going to three cells and the P90 lamp, you get the same runtime as 2 cells with a P60, but with 105 lumens rather than 60. Cool.

BTW, Meridian Tactical is selling the 9P as a stock unit for $90, which costs less than trying to retrofit a 6P.

Bill D.

 

[mokona2]

True.. I ordered a 6P before I "saw the light" as it were.. much more fun with 100+ lumens. A bit long for EDC, but still small enough to fit in my jacket /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/happy14.gif

Funds permitting, I may get a 9P to go with my 6P + A19 as my back-up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/broke.gif

 

[KevinL]

The 6P can be a lot of fun. I upgraded mine with a device I call the Widget. Not quite an A2 Aviator, but then again, not quite the A2's price tag either (estimated $80 total). TWO CELLS ONLY please. An A19 plus an additional cell will pop the whole array faster than you can say "Wh....."

 

[Size15's]

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Sierra said:
Hi Al,

Confused newbie here. First you mention using the P90 with three 123s with the result that it gets rather hot. Then you mention using the P60 with three 123s.

Thanks,
Bill D.

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I'm sorry, where do I mention using the P60 with three SF123As?

P60/P61 = Two-SF123A (aka 6V)

P90/P91 = Three-SF123A (aka 9V)

B65 NiCad battery stick uses the P60 Lamp Assembly.

Let's see if I also have the other parts down:
-The A14 and A19 are metallic and match the 6P
Correct.

-The AN14 is nitrolon and matches the G2
Correct.

-There is no AN19
Correct.

-The A14 and AN14 are longer and accomodate the B65
Correct.

-Each A19 adds one 123.
Correct. (however, the resistance increases with every joint which tends to reduce runtime.

I don't see any A19s on the Surefire site or on several other sites.
SureFire have only a small number of their thousands of products [combinations] and parts on their Website.

 

[Sierra_Bill]

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Size15's said:
I'm sorry, where do I mention using the P60 with three SF123As?


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Thanks for your help and all the info, Al, and sorry for my confusion. I had thought that the G2R is the name for the G2 + AN14 regardless of whether the B65 or 3 123s are used. Careful rereading shows you only referred to using the P60 with the B65, not with 3 123s. My errors, and thanks for clearing them up.

Bill D.

 

[Size15's]

Hi Bill D.,

No worries - SureFire do have a complicated range of options.

Al