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LM2917N based Frequency to Voltage Tachometer
http://www.piclist.com/images/boards/revbar/index.htm
DIY LM2917 Tacho.
http://foz11.tripod.com/DIY_MOD_s/Digital_Speedo/digital_speedo.html
Also detailed in Application Notes for LM2917, page 10
http://www.national.com/an/AN/AN-162.pdf
LM3914 is bar graph driver

Alternative to LM2917. "Wireless" spark pickup.
http://www.redcircuits.com//Page23.htm

The +12v pulse train going to the low tension side of coil/distributor is likely rise higher than 12v and so these circuits clamp the voltage with a zener diode.

Ready-made Adjustable shift light.
http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/black-adjustable-shift-light-red-light.aspx
$29.99 inc s/h maybe worth it?
 
Wow I might be in over my head here. I just started working with IC's a couple days ago so a lot of this doesn't make to much sense right now.

There on sale at my local shop for 40$ right now I just wanted a nice winter project to keep me busy:)


M2917N based Frequency to Voltage Tachometer
http://www.piclist.com/images/boards/revbar/index.htm

The first circuit seems to be the most understandable. I'm basically looking for something I wire to power/ground/coil and use a pot to adjust the RPM.

I'm sure this does exactly that just in regards to the 66Hz input and AC input...Kinda loses me.
 
The LM2917 requires an AC frequency as input, the 12v pulses going to the coil are square waves, not true AC, just on (12v) and off (0v). The circuit at the piclist site has the RC components (C1 and R1 through R3) to smooth out the square wave into more of a curvy sine wave approximation which the LM2917 can understand.

For the frequency you just use the equation they give out.
RPM and frequency are direcly related but you need to take into account the number of cylinders (ie ignition pulses per revolution) and if it is 4 stroke or 2 stroke.
Freq = ((# of cylinders)*(RPM))/120

[120 is for 4 stroke, 2 stroke would be 60]
For a screaming B16 VTEC/Honda 4cyl:
  • At idle (850 RPM) freq would be 28Hz
  • At 7250 RPM the freq would be approx 242Hz
Unless you really want the challenge/reward, perhaps the ready-made route would be best, they certainly are cheap enough now and probably use a low power digital microcontroller like a PIC chip to do it all in software which could allow them to do extra things like flash the LED if the RPM threshold is passed for a certain time to better attract attention.

Using a premade light you could modify the LED to a different colour or size which is most likely a lot easier than completely from scratch.
 
I'll spend the extra cash. It will be a fun project for me aswell. So I would have to get the hz at say 3000rmp and at 9000rpm and then which resistor would I use a pot for to control the varible rpm
 
So for the PIC List Circuit:

Pin 1 = The input from the (-)negative of the coil
Pin 5 = 12V Switch power.
Pin 4 = Power to the led? (connected to (+) of LED then to ground?)
Pin 8 = Ground
Pin 3/2/7/6 = Resistor/Cap then to Ground


My question is in regards to where (and what size watt) of a pot can I use to get a wide spread of resistance, and which resistor will be replaced to allow me to do this?...if possible? I would like to get a max and min value or HZ then reflect my pot for that resistance. That way I'll cover a wide spread of voltage allowing the light to be turned on at virtually and RPM.
 
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You may find some more luck with answers and help from people who have already experimented with such circuits.
Basically I believe you'll need to feed the output voltage from the LM29x7 into a comparitor circuit with a variable setting which determines when to switch on a LED.
You could try the electro-tech forums where very similar topic has been discussed or start new thread there.
More places to go/search from here.
 
Well it looks like i'm going to try this circuit out. It seems the most basic for me to understand and all the parts im able to obtain locally (and for under 10$:))

http://forum.teamfc3s.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=14577&d=1066659821

Here is my version Less the output from pin 5 to my device (LED)








NOW the two questions...

a) will this even work.? He has working prototypes and I would love to give it a try but curious of your guys inputs...

b)In his diagram Pin 5 feeds to a voltage transistor and a relay THEN to his device? Would I need this or can I just use my LED Positive from pin 5 and connect to ground?

thanks!
 
well I tryed the circuit and I think something is wrong. Theres a short between the diode and ground. I dont connect the diode to ground and everything allright.. the circuit doesnt work, but an led in the device location does light up if the pot is turned all the way down.
 
Well that didn't work so I think I'll try the speed switch circuit the LM2917 came with and replace the tacho with a led/

you guys see any problems with that?
 

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