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About those Goldengadget $ 29. Luxeon lights, I found out that they charge another $8. shipping and handling and (for us California residents) 8.75% tax on (I think) the whole price, including the shipping, so for practical purposes it is nearly a $40. light. The 1xCR123 is of course the smaller smaller one (an inch shorter according to the web site).
 
I like the looks of the bowling pin light myself, I don't need another light, but another light wouldn't hurt. And it is alittle one, put a 123a in it, throw it in the car...Hmmm...:)
I thought about the LED head for the E1, but once again the price jumps up. I imagine he wil get a Surefire or Inova someday, but he wants something NOW!! and doesn't want to wait. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif LOL I'm not sure how that feels, Since I have all the money in the world I buy whatever I want. I just go to work as a hobby, something to do. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Blades
 
If your friend wants something now, suggest the Dorcy 1AA 3-LED. It's not a 123 but an AA with boost. It's a great little light for about $10 at Target. Mine gets lots of use even though I have other more expensive lights.
 
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Aten_Imago said:
The veterans on CPF really know best on this one, but my gut forces me to suggest 2 options.
1) The Vortex TC-1 is the exact match for the requirements however, the newly released Vortex KC-1 is much more compactand has an amazing quality LED for the same price as the TC-1. The KC-1 uses CR2's which do not last as long as CR123's but it's bright! Here's a link > http://www.imagometrics.com/FLReviews/FLR_V_KC1.htm
2) For about $25.00 more ( about the price of lunch for 2 where I live), you can take it up a notch to the Longbow Micra with twist tail-switch. This is a big jump in quality for only an incremental increase in price (What does lunch for 2 cost where you live?). > http://www.imagometrics.com/FLReviews/FLR_LB_Mc.htm
Don't get get me wrong - The Vortex are a good buy for the money, with the TC-1 being the on-target candidate> http://www.imagometrics.com/FLReviews/FLR.htm ...but when it gets down to expansion options down the road- the Longbow is tough to beat for the price.:o



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Blades said:
Question. I have a coworker who likes my ARC LS, likes the Surefire E1, but the price of the Arc keeps him from buying one. So what I'm looking to recommend is a single 123a LED light, under 3.5 inches long, under 1 inch dia. I showed him a picture of the Inova T1, and the price is right, but it is 4.5 inches in length. What other lights are out there, where the price is under $50-60.00, is a LED light, uses 1 123a battery, and is under 3.5 inches long?? Any other ideas??
Thanks for the help!!



Blades

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I looked at the above two links. The vortex kc-1 is supposed to be 52 lumens and the longbow is rated at 25 lumens. So I'm not sure why the longbow would cost more considering it is longer in length and has less lumens.

Please advise if I'm missing something.

thanks,

sylvestor.
 
Hi RE:"I looked at the above two links. The vortex kc-1 is supposed to be 52 lumens and the longbow is rated at 25 lumens. So I'm not sure why the longbow would cost more considering it is longer in length and has less lumens. Please advise if I'm missing something. thanks, sylvestor."
1) Lumens alone are not a meaningful metric
2) Some manufacturerers over-rate thier Lumens
3) Unregulated lights will drop down in output after an initial surge of output
4) Lumen output and physical length together are NOT the only nor are they the most important criteria in pricing, selection or value of a light.You should take your REQUIREMENTS for usage into first consideration then buy whatever light best matches those requirements.
5) If you read between the lines of our evals ( the Pros & Cons section) you'll see that we do a tricky weighing exercise to help people judge the strengths and weakness of any particular light with reference to an absolute measure of perfection and NOT a relative measure of value.
I hope that helps.

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Thanks Aten_Imago !!

I'm looking for a small/compact light (something for my keychain) that will be extremly bright (ie: something to use when you are walking in trails late at night and you need some "throw.") That's why I am interested in the kc-1. I noticed in point # 3 above you mentioned that unregulated lights are initially bright, then drop off... From the kc-1 webpage, I thought the light was regulated and therefore it won't have too much drop off until the battery dies ?

You also mentioned that lumens are not a meaningful metric alone. I kind of understand what you say, but then again I'm still confused. I can't understand why the longbow would be considered a "better" light then the kc-1 ? So what I'm really asking is what features/qualities of the longbow are superiour to the kc-1 ?

thanks,

sylvestor.
 
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i can answer the lumens thing, sylvester. let me see if i can get this straight.

i think of light like water flowing through a garden hose nozzle.

lumens is the amount of water flowing through. a light can only make so many lumens--for example a 1w luxeon might average 25 lumens. the luxeon is like the "nozzle", in that it can only flow 25 gallons/minute, and no more.

lux is like the spray pattern. you can focus the spray (lumens) down to a thin stream (high lux), and the water will have good throw with a tiny concentrated spot (but no spill!).
you are taking the available lumens and concentrating them into a small area--which gives throw and high lux readings.
but the lumens are still the same!

widen the stream to a broad mist, and throw (lux) goes down, but you get a lot of useful spill. you are now spreading out the lumens, which results in less throw and lower lux readings.

im barely awake, so someone will probably be able to explain this much better than i.

take care,
Bob
 
Question: Does that bowling pin light take AAA batteries or a 123a battery??
Nevermind. Found the answer. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks!



Blades
 
I know your friend wants one now, but if you haunt B/S/T Arc LSHs come by in the $50-$80 range depending on whether it's an S or P, first or second. With a twistie, that's a small package, very pocketable.

And the Longbow Micra is nice, excellent fit and finish, and not too far out of the price range.

Hard to stay under fifty bucks when looking for a luxeon and 123 form factor. The AAs like the Dorcy and Arc are not as bright, but more pocketable and get great runtime, so they shouldn't be ruled out.

daloosh
 
Pedalinbob, I like the garden hose analogy... excellent way to describe it and well put, if I may say so myself! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif (Even though you were half asleep!) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
 
No, I haven't seen that review yet.
Thanks "lightbox"



Blades
 
I'm leaning towards buying the kc-1 when it comes out. But because the longbow costs more $$, I am wondering what features/qualities does it have that are better then the kc-1 ? Is it a better LED that is used ? From the specs, the kc-1 is shorter, has more lumens, is regulated and should last 1/2 hour longer then the longbow.


thanks,

sylvestor
 
Specs can say whatever they want. Until the KC-1 has made the rounds and the runtime plots, beam shots, and reviews start coming in, I'll take the specs with a grain of salt. For now, the Longbow micra with UCL and a SO17XA will be hard to beat unless you have a Fire~Fly or a Jets22 Blackbird.
 
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