Sunwayman or JetBeam?

[HaileStorm]

I'm torn between the Sunwayman V11R and the Jet-Beam PA10. I want one for EDC. That said, I need it to be small and doesn't make me look excited when it's in my jeans pocket. Power has to be at least 500 lumens. Which one do you recommend? Any other recommendations?


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[Edi]

My personal opinion Sunwayman. Just reading the forums about people's experiences with jetbeam, I don't trust what they put on paper is what it it is.

 

[Edi]

I'm looking aswell lol, my three were zebralight sc80, Sunwayman v11r and HDS LE 200 clicky. Have been convinced to get the HDS. even with the $40 postage to australia!

 

[HaileStorm]

I was suspecting the same with JetBeam. The numbers are far too inflated but I did see a review of the pa10 on youtube. Pretty good despite the fact that the light becomes a single-mode when using 14500 batteries.

And due to my relentless search, I've stumbled upon the Armytek Predator... Ah, the temptation!!! Haha! I'm thinking if I should just stick with the Klarus XT11 as edc for now... I'll check out your choices too :)

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[Kevinkw1]

An xt11 for edc! Have that in your jeans pocket, you get arrested! The v11r is a nice choice, it's a small pocket rocket with a rcr123 at 500 lumens. Has nice deep carry clip for jeans carry. Hds is great, but has a long backlog for orders.

 

[HaileStorm]

Haha! Yeah, I can imagine. Not to mention the questionable look the people in my office will give seeing the light in my pocket. Hehehe!

I like the v11r, just not fond of the grinding sound the switch makes... I love the small profile though. And the battery options.


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[darkknightlight]

I don't have the V11, but I do have the PA10. I definitely like it, and I have not had any of the other issues with it that others have. Also, the amount of light it puts out on an IMR 14500 is astonishing! It is definitely a flood light, which is a good quality, in my opinion, for an edc light to have. It is one of two lights that I carry daily.
Having said that, this is also the flashlight that brought me back to incans. I do night security, so I use my lights a lot on a daily basis. I had been using the PA10 to search for specific things throughout my shift for a few days, and was always unable to find them. After a day or two of looking for items that I had placed (so I knew what they looked like) in dark areas, I realized that it was the light that was keeping me from finding what I was looking for. I am colorblind, and the xml in this light (according to my wife) puts out three different colors of light; green, blue, and purple. She couldn't even find specifically colored items in the dark with it. So now I edc a lumens factory eo-4 for the CRI, and my PA10 for room-sweeping.
I apologize for the verbose response; but when I am preparing to buy a new light, I like to combine as much fact and opinion research as possible :) I figure there may be someone else that likes that much information as well.
Good luck with your new purchase!

 

[fishndad]

My personal opinion Sunwayman. Just reading the forums about people's experiences with jetbeam, I don't trust what they put on paper is what it it is.

I have the pc10 uses rcr and all the modes.
By the way.My PC10 is every bit 500 lumen with rcr.
If not than sunwaymans ratings are also inflated.Ive compared my RRT01 and PC10 to v10r m11r and
both of my Quarks.I think its lumen ratings are as fair as anyother company ive owned or tested with
the naked eye.
that being said i still recommend the sunwayman.the lights ive seen do have a high build quality.
the jetbeam pc10 has IMO a cheap spring in tailcap held together by clips connected to plastic.
I would assume the pa10 is the same.

 

[HaileStorm]

I don't have the V11, but I do have the PA10. I definitely like it, and I have not had any of the other issues with it that others have. Also, the amount of light it puts out on an IMR 14500 is astonishing! It is definitely a flood light, which is a good quality, in my opinion, for an edc light to have. It is one of two lights that I carry daily.
Having said that, this is also the flashlight that brought me back to incans. I do night security, so I use my lights a lot on a daily basis. I had been using the PA10 to search for specific things throughout my shift for a few days, and was always unable to find them. After a day or two of looking for items that I had placed (so I knew what they looked like) in dark areas, I realized that it was the light that was keeping me from finding what I was looking for. I am colorblind, and the xml in this light (according to my wife) puts out three different colors of light; green, blue, and purple. She couldn't even find specifically colored items in the dark with it. So now I edc a lumens factory eo-4 for the CRI, and my PA10 for room-sweeping.
I apologize for the verbose response; but when I am preparing to buy a new light, I like to combine as much fact and opinion research as possible :) I figure there may be someone else that likes that much information as well.
Good luck with your new purchase!

Verbose responses are very much welcome as it goves me a deeper insight with regards to the lights used. And I also believe that research prior to purchasing is indispensible so as to avoid buyer's remorse :).

My only concern with the pa10 is that it only has one output and might be too much for use indoors. :(. I'd also want to be able to access strobe when it's on 14500 since this will be my edc. I'm starting to consider the Klarus XT2C since it can output close to 500 lumens while still being able to access all the other modes, most importantly, strobe.

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[HaileStorm]

I have the pc10 uses rcr and all the modes.
By the way.My PC10 is every bit 500 lumen with rcr.
If not than sunwaymans ratings are also inflated.Ive compared my RRT01 and PC10 to v10r m11r and
both of my Quarks.I think its lumen ratings are as fair as anyother company ive owned or tested with
the naked eye.
that being said i still recommend the sunwayman.the lights ive seen do have a high build quality.
the jetbeam pc10 has IMO a cheap spring in tailcap held together by clips connected to plastic.
I would assume the pa10 is the same.

I saw a review by goinggear on youtube and the reviewer state that you only get single output on 14500's. I need to be able to access the low and strobe mode at least. By inflated numbers, what I mean is that the max output on rcr's is way too far from the max output in a primary bat which I think, drives the light too hard. There might be a risk to this. The V11R is a nice light but I wish they didn't have the variable brightness ring since this might rotate in my pocket defeating my purpose of an edc light. Might end up with the Klarus XT2C. Any thoughts on this light? Is it too big for an edc?

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[darkknightlight]

I definitely agree; I wish I had access to other modes while using a 14500 in the pa10. I don't need the use of strobe, as I've found that 650 lumens is bright enough to disorient anyone I've needed it to, but I do wish the lowest setting was available with a quick double click or something of that sort.

 

[HaileStorm]

I just noticed a trend with these edc lights. None of them fit the bill perfectly unlike those mid-sized lights such as the XT11 and its stablemates. The Sunwayman V11R requires an optional tube, I believe, to reach its peak output while the Jetbeam PA10 just has a single output on 14500s. Can anyone recommend me an edc light that has at least 500 lumens and can access all modes with rechargeables? Anything below $90 would be great.


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[Kilted]

Have you looked into Sunwayman V10A XML? It will run ALL AA cells from alkalines to LiIon 14500 with 460 lumens. I has the control ring for adjustable output, but no strobe. Less than $90.

I use one as my EDC.

=D~~Kilted

 

[HaileStorm]

I'm not really a fan of the control rings. I just watched a vid review of the v11r and it seems that the ring does not lock on high and as you mentioned, no strobe... :(.

Have two new models to choose from. Either the klarus xt2c or the xt1c. I'm 80% on the xt2c, I just want to see how it will look inside my jeans pocket.


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[HIDblue]

You may want to check out the Jetbeam RRT-0 as well. That's more of an equivalent to the SWM V11R than the JB PA10, since the RRT-0 also offers the infinitely variable control ring like the V11R. The RRT-0 with XM-L boasts 550 lumens max on an RCR 123 and it still gives you access to all levels using the control ring. It is a little larger for a 1x123 light, but it fits my hand perfectly.

I guess opinions and experiences will vary with the Jetbeam brand, but I have the RRT-0 in both XM-L and XP-G versions and they are one of my favorite EDC lights. Never had a problem with either and that includes dropping them, accidentally, onto concrete during use on several occasions.

Just comparing fit and finish between the two brands...I also have the Sunwayman V10R Ti+ and the Jetbeam TCR1 Ti and I think the fit and finish on the Jetbeam is much, much better. But as I said, everyone's got a little different take on both brands. Good luck on your search.

 

[Labrador72]

[...] Might end up with the Klarus XT2C. Any thoughts on this light? Is it too big for an edc?
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It's a very good light as long as you don't mind the light coming on on high all the time. There's a little trick that allows you to go to the second brightest level: you just press the main and secondary switch at the same time and you'll get the brightest level for a fraction of a second and then the light will go to second brightest level which is 150 lumens.

Regarding the size, whether a given size is suitable for EDC is very personal: some people only consider EDC 1xAAA flashlights, others would easily consider 1x18650 a suitable EDC light. Considering the head is only slightly wider than the body - unlike flashlights such as the XT11 - my personal opinion is that the XT2C is very well suited for EDC. That said, it quite big for an EDC light and makes Fenix PD31 and JetBeam PC20 look very compact, being both wider and taller. It still fits in the pocket nicely and without causing discomfort and being too bulky. Unless you want a very compact EDC flashlight, it will be absolutely fine.

If instead you want an EDC that can also go on on lower output levels, take a look at the Fenix PD31, PD32, or the JetBeam PC20. If size is really critical, you can consider the Eagletac D25C2 clicky.

 

[HaileStorm]

@ HIDblue:

Thanks for your recommendation! I'm considering the rrt-0 also but mabe for my wife. I'll check it out personally tomorrow, the output is pretty awesome! I agree with the build-quality of the JetBeams. They seem totally solid and the bodies are pretty thick. The square-cut threads are also a nice plus.

@ Labrador72:

I'm going to try out the xt2c and xt1c tom, I'm pretty sure I'll end up with the xt2c though. It just packs a lot more power for just a few mm's longer and thicker. Plus it's floody which is what an edc is supposed to be. And the Klarus interface just can't be beat for, imo. I also like the fact that it takes 18650's.

Thank you both for your help! :)


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[fishndad]

@ HIDblue:
i have the rrt01 its an exellent light and the light has never turned on in my pocket.
it actually requires a slight bit of innitial force to ingage the power.
be carefull you may have to buy another one for yourself.

Thanks for your recommendation! I'm considering the rrt-0 also but mabe for my wife. I'll check it out personally tomorrow, the output is pretty awesome! I agree with the build-quality of the JetBeams. They seem totally solid and the bodies are pretty thick. The square-cut threads are also a nice plus.

@ Labrador72:

I'm going to try out the xt2c and xt1c tom, I'm pretty sure I'll end up with the xt2c though. It just packs a lot more power for just a few mm's longer and thicker. Plus it's floody which is what an edc is supposed to be. And the Klarus interface just can't be beat for, imo. I also like the fact that it takes 18650's.

Thank you both for your help! :)


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[Jarodammerman]

I would go with Sunwayman. I personally like the UI.

 

[HaileStorm]

Thank you for all the suggestions!!! Really appreciate all the help, this truly is a great forum with tons of useful info! Just got my Klarus XT2C for EDC. I'm totally happy with it, the UI is awesome and so easy to use! Looking to purchase the XT1C for the wifey :).


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