Well, I have had no joy from them the few times I tried to order stuff including the new Vitalgear bodies - each time got either slow responses or their standard 'out of stock' reply /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rant.gif Maybe the stuff I wanted was just too in demand I guess. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif And after I cancel my order, I get 2 or 3 quick replies from them saying they'll ship next week /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif