The ideal LED gift light

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paulr

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I'm wondering what's the closest thing being made to the ideal LED light. The purpose is a quality gift for a non-flashaholic tech buff. My idea of ideal means the LED light equivalent of a Sebenza pocket knife. Here are some desirable characteristics, some of which are perhaps in conflict with each other.

1) It should be completely solid in operation, with no flakiness whatsoever in its switching action. It's better to have an utterly predictable 1 level switch, than a finicky 2 level switch.

2) It should be visually attractive, designed with keen and tasteful style, not just utilitarian. My notion is that it should be smooth bodied with milled grooves where needed for gripping, and with no knurling; if there's knurling, it should be everywhere on the body, like the Arc AA, rather than in bands. But this is up to the designer and there are all kinds of possibilities.

3) The styling should not make even the slightest gesture toward an intentional military-tactical look. It should not have pointy bits like the SF E2D. It should not be olive-drab in color. However, it should have a look that stays stylish and wears well. The blue HA of the FF2 is nice. And I do like the E1e/E2e/L4 series.

4) It should require absolutely minimal maintenance, and should need no hard-to-find maintenance parts that wear, like custom-molded rubber switch boots. The battery contact should not be a solder blob. I guess an O-ring seal may be unavoidable, but the O-ring should be a standard one that you can get at a hardware store.

5) The light should be impressively bright for its size. If it's a 2 cell light, it should have a 5 watt led. It doesn't need the absolute top LED flux since its goal is not beamshot comparisons with other lights. But it should have good neutral and smooth color, even at the expense of a little bit of flux. It does not need extreme throw. It should have a wide, smooth spill beam.

6) It should come in attractive packaging if possible. Longbow is great at that. This isn't a necessity though. While we're at it, the package should include a maintenance kit, consisting of spare O-rings, switch boots, lubricant, etc, and at least one spare set of batteries.

7) It should not need ultra-exotic batteries, but CR123's and CR2's are fine.

8) One can never, ever say that cost is no object, or who knows what might happen. But the idea here is to get something really nice that impresses the hell out of the recipient, not to get a big bargain. The cost of a Surefire L4 or a basic Aleph is acceptable. Going beyond that may take some second thoughts.

Lights that don't quite make it:

Firefly/FF2: these lights are very close to what I have in mind, but their QC isn't yet up to the standard needed. Their operation is just too flaky, especially with the 2-stage switch. Battery replacement is also somewhat fussy, at least with the FF1. I worry about the edge contact on the converter board. The solution may be a somewhat redesigned FF3 with custom electronics, but that's science fiction for now.

Longbow Micra: These are promising but the ergonomics aren't as good as the original McLux. Also, I hate the Kroll switch.

Peak LED various models: these just aren't there yet

Ultra-limited modder lights: there are some gorgeous and fantastic ones, but they aren't available for sale.

Aleph series: this has possibilities, though I have some quibbles about the styling. I'd have preferred the Aleph 2 head to look closer to the original McLux head in black, and the multiple diameters of the body/tail look a little bit busy. As much as I hate to say it, even the original McLux looks a little bit "trendy" and I'm looking for more like "classic".

HDS EDC series: maybe the Arc4+ soured me on this but I feel this type of light is overcomplicated to operate, plus it's too large for a compact EDC, and for a non-EDC it makes too many sacrifices for the sake of compactness. It would be much more attractive as a 2-cell, 5 watt light.

I guess the L4 is ok, though I wasn't too impressed with the original Z57 switch, which may have been improved since then. L4/McE2S is another thought.
 
Thinking "out of the box"...an eternaLight Ergo 3! Not exactly the direction your thoughts seem to be aimed in though...
 
The Eternalight is more of a tech gadget than a flashlight. I have another thread seeking a flashlight for my mom (she likes gadgets), and the Eternalight is actually an interesting candidate for her. But for this light I'm looking for something more impressive.

The Nuwais are a good value as flashlights go, but don't have anywhere near the finish quality or packaging that I'm looking for. Unfortunately, Longbow doesn't make any 5 watt lights AFAIK. So I'm leaning towards a Surefire L2 or L4.
 
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6) It should come in attractive packaging if possible. Longbow is great at that. This isn't a necessity though. While we're at it, the package should include a maintenance kit, consisting of spare O-rings, switch boots, lubricant, etc, and at least one spare set of batteries.

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Are there any lights available that come with a maintenance kit?

Sounds like you're looking for something in a "presentation case".

It doesn't quite fit all your criteria, but the Inova X03 I just received today is a pretty impressive "production" light.

JB
 
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Nothing I can think of that fits with the 5W requirement... but if you want a pretty light with an attractive look, nice packaging, and reliable switch, try an Orb or a Fliklite LS:3.

They're both stylish, the Orb's pretty bright, and they're more objet d'art than flashlights, no knurling or sharp edges. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif If you put a Tritium vial on the Orb, even better.
 
I haven't seen a Blackbird in person but have looked at photos. While it's a wonderful light technically and functionally, I think it's somewhat lacking in the style department.

5W isn't a requirement except for bigger lights.

Fliklite and Orb are kind of interesting ideas. I'll think about them.

Re presentation case: I know someone who might be willing to make one on commission. Do you think there's any market for that kind of thing here on CPF?
 
It depends on budget, and budget levels. I've never seen a Photon that DIDN'T impress in all the dozens I've given away. A CMG Inf Ultra makes a nice one as well, if you want to, you can add the Dr Scholl's trick to it to fix the battery rattle and enhance switching.

The SF 6P-GM and E2e-SG have killer looks and killer performance (especially to a non-flashaholic), minus the HA3 OD color which turns some people off - the rest of us live with it because we love our HA3 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif battery life is also an acceptable mix between light and runtime, the P60 is still the workhorse even in my hands. I can't imagine telling the recipients they'll have to reload every 20 minutes..
 
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I haven't seen a Blackbird in person but have looked at photos. While it's a wonderful light technically and functionally, I think it's somewhat lacking in the style department.

5W isn't a requirement except for bigger lights.

Fliklite and Orb are kind of interesting ideas. I'll think about them.

Re presentation case: I know someone who might be willing to make one on commission. Do you think there's any market for that kind of thing here on CPF?

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I should point out that the Fliklite comes in a tin complete with foam padding, which has cutouts that keep the light and batteries from banging up into anything, and a slip-cover box that just said 'Fliklite LS:3' or LS:1, or whatever you picked. Very stylish lights, and solid - plus the unique switching mechanisms have a cool factor for those who like things that are 'different'.

While they're both 3W lights, they're fairly good - the only complaint I have with my LS:1 is that the standard NX-05 optics make for a tight spot and no spill whatsoever. The IMS reflector in the Orb should do pretty well, and the beamshots in the Orb thread are rather impressive. If you put a Tritium vial in there, so much the better.

And if you REALLY want to impress him, get the Orb Ti - the Titanium version. Unfortunately, it's also the most expensive option. However, it is rather unique and sure to catch a gadget-lover's attention.

Otherwise, get him an Aleph and he'll be happy - it's utilitarian, and very modular... which again should be good for anyone who likes their tech-toys. Tell him he can switch out the light for a more powerful one, or swap the head to increase the throw, or even try different battery tubes. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Infinity Ultra or the Gerber Trio. No-nonsene lights, simple operation, common batts, decent finish.

I can't think of the "ideal" Lux-LED gift light, though...
 
I have given away several EL Blaster Jr's and the recipients were very happy with them. Nice machining...very good output..uses 3 AA batteries.....
 
Greenled, 14C, Ray, your suggestions under most circumstances would be sensible and excellent. But in this particular situation I'm not looking for "no-nonsense" or "decent"; I'm looking for something first class. Also, I guess I made the post partly to lament the lack of any flashlights made to the standard I'm looking for. There are plenty of pocket knives and fountain pens that reach this level of quality, and wristwatches that go light-years beyond it, but only a few flashlight makers have pursued the idea and even fewer have resulted in commercial offerings.

Anyway, thanks for all the ideas, they've been helpful and I think I can figure out the rest from here.
 
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