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Empath: I know what you mean about there only being a certain amount of available power (as in watts). That’s why to pull off the above example of jumping from 6volts to 12-14volts you would, of course, have to be using NiMh or NiCd batteries in order to be able to suck that much total power out of them at one time. In such a case, the light would burn super bright, but even using D cells, it probably wouldn’t have a really long run-time, so you would want to use rechargeables anyway because of that. I just thought it would be really cool to be able to use a 12volt bulb in a 4D MagLite. Even if it doesn’t have a long runtime, it would be very very bright compared to a normal Mag. That would be reason enough for me to want to do such a mod, just to be able blow people’s minds with how bright I got my MagLite to put out.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by X-CalBR8:
I just thought it would be really cool to be able to use a 12volt bulb in a 4D MagLite. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's cool. It wasn't my intention to discourage you from trying to push the limits. Growth comes by pushing beyond the present capabilities. I sometimes get lost in details. Fortunately for the world, some try anyway.
 
X-Cal: You want a cool flashlight? How about this?
I took a 4-cell maglite, put in a 12volt votage regulator (1amp) to give is a constant bright light. Then, I put in a battery meter so you can tell how much juice is left. And then, I extended the tailcap 1" and retrofitted it with a cigarette lighter jack. Now, with the 12-volts, you a a flashlight that can be used for 12-volt accessories, such as for a cell phone, radio, ect. It's like having a portable 12-volt power stick. The flashlight is capable of charging my 800mA cell phone over 10 times.
Let me know what you think??????
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Spots can require quite a bit of power. What are the speicifications such as voltage and Amps. Our regulator can be set up to (2) amps, maybe more (with additiona parts).

Let me know?????
 
Wow! This is really getting interesting.

Davo123: So, are you are saying that you have a working prototype or is this just something that you are planning on doing? If it has already been done, then did you build your own regulator or buy one from somewhere? What kind of runtime could you expect with a 12volt bulb in a 4D MagLite? Also, does the regulator put out enough wattage to get the bulb up to full brightness? I’m very interested to learn more details. Oh yeah, is your regulator small enough to put in the tail where the spare bulb usually fits?
 
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Fours things:
1.Yes, I actually have a working prototype.
2.Many companies make effecient switching regulator chips. The challange is building the regulator to meet the power requirements.
3. How many Amps is the 12 volt bulb. Let me know more about the bulb's specification, make, model all that.
4. A VR in the tail cap is pretty hard to do. First, space is a problem and second, you don't have both ground and (+) power. The VR fits better with the switch.

Let me know more about that bulb. I may make a couple of these up and sell them.
 
The way that I had imagined to put a VR in the Tail Cap was to make a sort of washer sandwich. You would have the negative available from the bottom battery, then a thin 1” washer with a wire soldered to it then a thin slice of rubber then another washer of about ¾” also with another wire soldered to it. Then just attach both wires to the VR circuit that would reside in the tail cap. The wire would, of course, run through the middle of the tail cap spring. I know it’s a little hard to explain without a diagram, but if you have your MagLite handy, then just take a look at it and I think you will see what I mean. This design would allow someone with no electronics skills what so ever to install such a device.

This was my original design that I came up with close to a year ago, but so far I’ve not found a suitable VR for this application. Most chips just can’t handle the amount of amperage involved. That’s why you see so many different chips that will work for low amperage LED applications, but when it comes to incandescents it is very difficult to find a chip, that is very efficient (which is an absolute must in a battery operated device), and that can still handle that kind of amperage.

I don’t currently own a suitable 12volt bulb for this project so I can’t do a test for wattage, but I do have a 6volt 4D MagLite with the stock bulb. I just tested it at 6.25volts and pulling .75amps with brand new rechargeable alkaline batteries. I mentioned what type of batteries that I was using because with regular Alkalines, it would probably pull a bit more amperage because of a slightly less internal resistance in “normal Alkalines”. Of course this is a “running amperage” once the bulb has warmed up for like a second. As I’m sure you are well aware, when a bulb is cold and just starts up, it can pull many times this amount of power. There would definitely need to be a built in protection in the circuit for this start-up amperage draw in order to keep from blowing a chip. Also worth noting, a VR would also help to preserve bulb life if it was set to start the bulb off at a bit less than full power for the fist second instead of starting it off at full power such as is the case without a VR.

Also, unless we were to use just one particular kind of 12volt bulb, then we would get very different current draws for them anyway (well, up to the maximum that the batteries were able to put out anyway). I know for sure that there are 12volt bulbs that pull a comparatively small amount of watts and then there are those several million CP spotlights that pull something like 100 watts!

After putting a great deal of thought into this, I think a safer bet might be to try the following. Since MagLite makes a pretty standard 9Volt bulb to go in their 6D MagLites, and the bulbs are pretty commonly available, why don’t we shoot for using a 9volt bulb in a 4D 6volt MagLite? A 9volt bulb would also be very bright (although not quite as bright as a 12volt), and would be very commonly available and I’m pretty sure the MagLite 9volt bulb only pulls like 1amp of current. Could someone that has a 6D MagLite confirm this? Also try taking amperage readings using rechargeables if possible. If it does only pull like 1amp then you could, perhaps, not be forced to use rechargeables if you didn’t want to for some reason given this scenario.

I’ll just stop right here and let you guys digest what I’ve typed up so far and see what you think of it.
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