What's with advertisers hating cats?

[PhotonWrangler]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

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GJW said:

Following investigations on the matter, Nokia's external advertising agency has apologised for the oversight made by their subcontractors and for the embarrassment that this may have caused.

"They have also assured us that they will take all necessary action to ensure that circulation of the video material is stopped and that all further production and material created for Nokia will adhere strictly to Nokia´s ethical standards and advertising policies", said Kari Tuutti, Vice President, Communications, Nokia Mobile Phones.[/i]

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Ok, so I feel a little bit better about this now. But at the opening of their statemment, they implied that the material was submitted by some unrelated "third party." But later in their letter they admit that it was a "subcontractor" who did this... in other words, their ad agency and it's production staff. Smells like Microsoft's I-Loo denial and subsequent admission to me.
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[springnr]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

javafool, Contech makes some interesting products that might help. Like the ScareCrow .

 

[javafool]

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Thank you for the ideas. I may call for prices the first of the week. springnr, VERY interesting! I would have to be careful not to get the mailwoman though, wouldn't I? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif

 

[Rothrandir]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

i know very little about marketing, but from various movies i've seen (what women want, bewitched(tv show), i was under the impression that a company hires a marketing company to produce ads for them. the marketing company is responsable for the creation of an ad campaign, and the business (nokia/ford) hires them for their work.

i would think that these ads were probably produced by a marketing agency to be used to convince ford/nokia to go with their company, or as a joke, or whatever.

basically, what i mean to say is that i'd bet the fault lies with the marketing company, and nokia/ford knew nothing about this until after it was made...

 

[MichiganMan]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

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Negeltu said:
I don't find that funny at all. In my world...any person who treated animals with cruelty would be terminated...

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Negeltu, how is it that a fictional depiction with obvious humorous intent (regardless of its success with you) is a horrible horrible thing, but your apparently earnest advocation of the actual murdering of "cruel" people is acceptable?

Joke about killing an animal/Fantasy about killing people

Six of one, half dozen of another it looks like to me.

 

[richpalm]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

Since I am an animal lover, (2 cats, 1 dog) here is my take on any animal haters:

[Hermann Göring on a Radio broadcast of 28. August 1933]

»It is simply not in accordance with the German character, much less is it in accordance with the National-Socialist ideals on human spirituality, to equate animals with lifeless objects and permit their owners absolute jurisdiction over them«

Volksgenossen! [Fellow Germans] Since the day I announced my edict against the torture of animals regarding vivisection, a flood of letters and telegrams has come to my office, agreeing enthusiastically, expressing their gratitude over my decision that, finally, stringent steps were taken to end the torture of animals. My edict may have come as a surprise like lightening out of a blue sky. For years the struggle against vivisection has been going on. Much was said about it in scientific and unscientific discussions, but nothing was done about it. The National-Socialist Government was aware from the first day, that severe measures had to be inaugurated, yet, it took months until such a law, with all its ramifications, could be passed.


In order to prevent the spreading of torture to animals before such law could be passed, I issued this decree, making use of a right that is accorded to me, to put violators, who still think they can treat animals as a lifeless commodity, into protective custody or a concentration-camp.


I rest my case.

Whoever made that Ford video needs to be executed, slowly. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Rich

 

[James S]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

I love cats, they are delicious.

What this should show you, is that people in general can get an idea and run with it all the way to producing a commercial and all the people necessary can sit around and run the camera and do the editing and the lighting and the sound and the put it all together, and nobody comes forward to suggest this is a bad idea?

This is how removed from reality much of TV and movie producers or perhaps the whole culture of media is...

Makes you wonder about the rest of what we see doesn't it...

 

[flownosaj]

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dedhorse.gif
Are we agreed that this kind of abuse is still okay, right...




/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif -Jason

 

[Negeltu]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

MichiganMan,

We kill people who kill people...
I was speaking on the basis that the video was real.
I do NOT value human life over any other animals life. That is my opinion and you cannot argue it in any way that holds water. Your argument will be your opinion.
I don't wish to go into this any further with you. Thanks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[javafool]

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Negeltu said:
MichiganMan,

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I do NOT value human life over any other animals life. That is my opinion and you cannot argue it in any way that holds water. Your argument will be your opinion.
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Then you certainly must also be a vegetarian. I can't imagine you kill animals for food if you value their lives as much as any human. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

 

[Negeltu]

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Nope. I love eating meat. Life must consume life. Eating is a sacred act... One must kill to live. But needless killing is ridiculous. I would probably eat a human if it came down to it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Just another animal... There's too many of us here anyway.

 

[PhotonWrangler]

Re: What\'s with advertisers hating cats?

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James S said:

What this should show you, is that people in general can get an idea and run with it all the way to producing a commercial and all the people necessary can sit around and run the camera and do the editing and the lighting and the sound and the put it all together, and nobody comes forward to suggest this is a bad idea?



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Interesting point.

As production techniques become more automated, it takes fewer and fewer people to pull this kind of stunt off, so the number people that have to be conned into this is probably less than a dozen. And there's at least a fair chance, if that cat was composited in later, that the crew on the shoot knew little more than that they had to shoot the car with it's sunroof opening and closing with no operator visible. The cat does look a little bit out of perspective, especially as it jumps onto the hood of the car, so it's possible that the only people who knew about the final result were those that were photographing the cat against a green screen, as well as the script writer and the editor and CGI staff. Still, it shows a pretty bleak sense of humor on the part of at least a handful of people.

 

[stockwiz]

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For someone who plays the game "postal 2" on a daily basis, I must say I found that Ford commercial disturbing.

 

[Avix]

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there does seem to be a trend in advertising these days that the product is the most important thing, (Pepsi ad where father is sitting avidly watching sports and drinking pepsi while wife gives birth on other side of curtain, family walking through wildlife park while family gets jumped on by apes because car is too special to risk, etc)

they use these tactics (and I do mean tactics) because they work.

 

[Topper]

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