Zebralight H602

[carrot]

+1!

No offense Painful Chafe, I know you're passing info along but I don't believe any of the hype anymore. I've been promised several things I'm still waiting on.

Try being a Surefire fan. Wait 3 years for something, only to find out it got canned (read: LX1, LX2U, Beast mini, etc)

 

[Phry]

Surefire new models are a joke. They are mostly talk.

It would be a shame to see Zebralight end up like that too.

This thing is already way overdue.

Hurry up ZL and release the thing!

 

[Stocum]

Zebralight may have been waiting for the Armytek Wizard Pro to come out so they can make the H602 better. No stepdown from the 1,000+ lumen turbo on the Armytek headlight but the UI on the Armytek is not for beginners. No reason for Zebralight to update a product that had no competition, until now.
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[petr9999]

it does have a thermal stepdown ;)

 

[Painful Chafe]

it does have a thermal stepdown ;)

And 1000 LED lumens, not ANSI.

The ZL will be brighter, smoother flood, smaller and the thermal management/output is in a different league.

 

[carrot]

Surefire new models are a joke. They are mostly talk.

I disagree, but that is besides the point. That's not what the thread is about, so I will not correct your uninformed opinion.

Zebralight clearly is having a hard time filling orders and they need to step up their game. I want to see these new models they've been promising for ages!

 

[Beacon of Light]

That may have been their strategy, but I don't think they have anything to worry about. I don't own a H600 but I'd rather have one of those than either of the Armyteks I have. I am certain the H602 will be everything the Armytek is not. I've never had random shut offs with any of the Zebralights I own. I've also had the luxury of several sub lumen modes on the Zebralights, Armytek has a lone single .5 lumen mode. The UI of Zebralight is the best in the business as far as I am concerned and in my mind, Zebralight is the one to beat in this industry.

Zebralight may have been waiting for the Armytek Wizard Pro to come out so they can make the H602 better. No stepdown from the 1,000+ lumen turbo on the Armytek headlight but the UI on the Armytek is not for beginners. No reason for Zebralight to update a product that had no competition, until now.

 

[RedForest UK]

And 1000 LED lumens, not ANSI.

The ZL will be brighter, smoother flood, smaller and the thermal management/output is in a different league.

I measure 880 OTF on turbo, with a much bulkier design for better thermal management than the H600 at least. I'll be very interested to see what the H602 has to offer based on your comments.

 

[Painful Chafe]

I measure 880 OTF on turbo, with a much bulkier design for better thermal management than the H600 at least. I'll be very interested to see what the H602 has to offer based on your comments.

I'm very curious too. I think I will buy both and keep the one I like more. I use my headlamp at work and keep it in my tool bag, so size is important. So, I'm thinking for that reason I will keep the ZL, as long as its performance is at least equal to the Armytek and according to what I was told, it will be a bit brighter and the thermal management is more sophisticated. No small feat if the physical size is kept small. Plus my work is 2-3 feet in front of my face and the bare emitter flood is better for me.

As a side note, reading the Wizard Pro thread is quite amusing. All this back and forth about step down times, ambient temps, hot to hold but bearable and too hot to touch. Pages and pages of it. It is quite amusing. Also, 16 pages and only a couple of real world beamshots?

I'm looking forward to the endless pages of discussions of the second by second accounts of how the ZL light manages heat and output.

 

[RedForest UK]

Yeah, as a summary for the Wizard Pro the pre-production sample had a very high thermal protection 'critical' threshold at just over 80 celsius. They seem to have severely reduced the threshold to 65 celsius on the production model. However, there are different stages of coloured warning lights behind the button which on the pre-production flash green at 65, yellow at 70, orange at 75 and red at 80 (or something like that), but they forgot to update the temperatures at which these flash for the production model. So you end up missing out entirely on the colour warning LEDs as it steps down as soon as it gets to 65 now.

Also, 65 may be a bit too low anyway as in a warm room and no airflow it will step down to 100 lumens after only about 3-5 minutes. Outside 15 celsius and walking pace it won't step down, but stand still for a few minutes and it will.


On the H602 I'd prefer some sort of infinitely variable stepdown which maintains the max possible safe output in whatever environment. I find it hard to believe that the H602 could have better physical thermal properties however as Zebralight tend to go for as small as possible leaving little thermal mass.

 

[Phry]

I disagree, but that is besides the point. That's not what the thread is about, so I will not correct your uninformed opinion.

I disagree, but that is besides the point. That's not what this thread is about, so I will not correct your uninformed reply.

 

[Whizkid]

Just got some info from ZL today. I can't go into some details because I was sworn to secrecy. Let just say that the 602 and another headlight they are releasing will be a game changer as far as output and thermal management. What they have done is really impressive. CPF will be all abuzz when it comes out.

The 602 should be out in a few weeks and it will roll out with a neutral white at release.

If it's the H52 I may cry. Cry HUGE tears of joy.

 

[markr6]

If it's the H52 I may cry. Cry HUGE tears of joy.

Yes! Unfortunatley I will not be able to satisfy my craving early this time. With all the GREEN tint SC52s I bought, I need to wait and see if that happens this time. I consider the H51 their flagship model, so I think it's important they're careful and choose good non-green emitters for the H52/w.

Just to be clear, is the H602 really an upgrade for the H600? Everyone seems to think so, but I thought it was basically an H502 running on 18650?? And the ZL info sheet calls it a "Flood" beam where the H600 is "spill + spot"

 

[petr9999]

both are right, is should be a reflector-less h600 with bigger output, but who know, they might add TIR or something, and suprise us

 

[susu]

Got my 502, thinking of getting a new one, so I'll wait till things are clearer

 

[Painful Chafe]

If it's the H52 I may cry. Cry HUGE tears of joy.

No. It a 18650.

 

[markr6]

No. It a 18650.

I believe he was referring to "the other" headlamp. Regardless, it looks like the H52 and H602 will be coming out for sure. Like always, it's anyone's guess.

 

[Painful Chafe]

I believe he was referring to "the other" headlamp. Regardless, it looks like the H52 and H602 will be coming out for sure. Like always, it's anyone's guess.

Yes. The 'other' one is an 18650 also.

 

[markr6]

Yes. The 'other' one is an 18650 also.

Still some confusion. I believe he meant the H52, which will still be an AA/14500 format

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

The H602 has got to be coming soon. They don't have a single 18650 headlamp for sale on their site.