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    I've purchased and used numerous EDC lights over the years from well known commercial manufacturers but would like to venture into the custom light arena. Trying to do my homework but I'm an admitted novice with respect to components/parts (emitter, converter, reflector etc.) I've read enough to know that my first custom purchase will be a McGizmo Haiku but beyond that I'm unsure. I would like a build with more beam throw than flood and a neutral or cool white tint preferably powered by 1x123 cell for pocket carry. The light will be used primarily in an urban setting. Most of my prior purchases were high lumens but again I'm not sure. Is this do-able. Thanks.

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    TiRider22,

    Welcome aboard!

    The Haiku is an excellent choice. I received my first one over ten years ago, and it has been with me every single day since. My favorite light for sure.

    The Haiku will meet with your specifications completely so once you decide the color Temp. of your LED, you will be good to go. These lights have the best design, best clip, best Switch, best levels and the best reflectors. You Can't go wrong.

    Let us know what you get, and how you like it. I'm sure others here will give you great advice, and you should talk with Don, he is wonderful to deal with.

    Good luck,

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    Your words are reassuring that my homework paid off. Owning a light for ten years is impressive. I'm not sure I've owned anything that long, much less a work light. I wasn't sure if I should ask Don for advice but I will based on your suggestion. Do I send it to his email address he uses for orders or reach out to him through a thread? I don't want to bother him unnecessarily. Can I ask the build of your Haiku? That might help. I will certainly let you know what I purchased. Thanks for welcoming a novice.

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    https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...=1#post5228841

    The Haiku is an amazing light. If you want slightly more throw check out Donís new Mahi head In the above link. It give a little more throw, but it is slightly larger than the standard Haiku head.
    "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal"

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    TiRider22,

    My Haiku is the standard issue three speed LE, and has a XPG-R5 (Cool) LED. I use it all the time, and I still have the original McClicky Switch in it. I maintain it well, keeping all contacts clean, and threads and O-Rings greased.

    It is my favorite for sure. I Don't think Don would mind you E-Mailing him, he is a very good businessman.

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    Thank you both for the advice. It's cool to be able to ride the "coat tails" of much more knowledgeable collectors. The only problem is the more photo's I see (thanks greatscoot) the more lights I want to purchase. Thinking about buying 2 (Mule & Haiku) now. You guys and ladies are dangerous to hang out with. Will a 2x123 powered light still fit in a front pocket comfortably?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiRider22 View Post
    Thank you both for the advice. It's cool to be able to ride the "coat tails" of much more knowledgeable collectors. The only problem is the more photo's I see (thanks greatscoot) the more lights I want to purchase. Thinking about buying 2 (Mule & Haiku) now. You guys and ladies are dangerous to hang out with. Will a 2x123 powered light still fit in a front pocket comfortably?
    One of my favorite setups is Don's 2x123 body with a Sundrop (between mule and Haiku) head. It rides very comfortably in my back pocket.

    "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal"

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    Rider,

    The 2 X 123 may be a little big for EDC, however the single 123 pack is great with Haiku, mule or sundrop heads. Also, you should get one with the etched clip, they are very nice.

    If you get a couple of these you will be set for life. From time to time, I think about selling my other lights, and just keeping my McGiz lights.

    Rider, this is my McGizmo collection:

    Haiku XPG-R5 3S
    Haiku Red LED 3S
    Haiuk XML 3S with 4 6mm trit vials glued surrounding the emitter
    Sun Drop Red LED 3S
    Mule 219B 3S
    Makai on a 2 X AA Pack 3S
    VME Head with a Malkoff M31 drop in
    Sapphire
    Ti PD-XR 19

    Looking forward to learning what you decide on. Later we can go over spare parts and tools to keep your lights going. I like having spare parts so if I need something I Don't have to wait and am able to keep the lights in service.

    All the best,

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    A modular system will give you more options, the more parts you get ...

    ... is the archimedes peak

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    Default Re: McGizmo Haiku Advice

    Arch,

    That's right it is very modular. Don't forget about spare parts, a stripped clip screw would drive me crazy if I did not stock a few backups. Do you keep any parts on hand?

    In addition to being modular, you can field strip these lights in just a minute. I like things that are user serviceable. Plus, it is always nice to keep them serviced and always ready to go.

    Also, I bought the hex driver for the screws from the Cat in LA who makes them, MIP, and it is a wonderful tool.

    Nice collection, by the way!
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    Spare parts ?

    Oh, sure ...

    ... is the archimedes peak

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    That's a lot of parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    That's a lot of parts.
    Haha ! .... just kidding, those are mostly empty

    Got a bunch of nice boxes on close-out a while back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    Later we can go over spare parts and tools to keep your lights going. I like having spare parts so if I need something I Don't have to wait and am able to keep the lights in service.
    Hopefully ya'll won't mind me jumping on the train here-- I'm soaking all this up as well. I'm looking at picking up my first McGizmo and would be interested to hear what you would recommend in terms of spare parts and tools. From doing some reading, it looks like the MIP 1/16" Hex is the tool to use for those clip screws?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Rearmount,

    I think the MIP is a must for any serious McGizmo owner, and the other tool I'd say you should have is the switch wrench from Prometheus.

    I have a spare clip, clip screws, O-rings, switch boots, and a spare switch. Plus spare batteries, both protected rechargeable, and primary. Also, any additional LE's you may have.

    And for polishing the finish the 3M maroon, gray, and white Scotch Brite Pads, some metal polish, and microfiber cloths to keep them looking new.

    The last thing is to get a very nice box or case to store your lights, and parts in. These lights deserve a nice home.

    Also, any beads not attached should go in your McGiz kit box/case, and Don't for get to use the label maker on your boxes.

    That should do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    Haha ! .... just kidding, those are mostly empty

    Got a bunch of nice boxes on close-out a while back.
    I bet those boxes are full of hundred dollar bills to keep the McGizmo habit going, I know mine are! It is a tough habit to break.

    I really like the look of the yellow cases.
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    Rearmount,

    To expand on the MIP hex driver, it is a very precise tool made to strict tolerances. I used to hate hex heads on motorcycles because they stripped so easy, however, even the high quality mechanic grade are not as well made as you think.

    Using a wratchet is putting an unequal load, and helps to strip the head. You need a very precise bit and a T-handle. The MIP being a driver is centered, and is so well made it actually snaps in place. It would be hard to damage the hex using this tool.

    Well worth the the price - around $15.00 or something?

    Hope this Info. helps.

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    Thanks Red. I spoke with Don as you suggested and he was great about the advice. I ordered yesterday. Got the Haiku XLM2-HIVE-1x123 and Mahi-HIVE-XP-L(HI) cool white 1x123.
    Got the cracked ice clips on both.

    Based on Don's advice I decided against the 2x123 for now as I plan to pocket carry both and the extra length of the Mahi was concerning. Will probably re-visit a 2x123 build later. Don recommended using protected RCR123 batteries like the Fenix ARB-L16-700 16340. Any thoughts on power cells. Not very versed in this. Let me know. Don built both lights today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiRider22 View Post
    Thanks Red. I spoke with Don as you suggested and he was great about the advice. I ordered yesterday. Got the Haiku XLM2-HIVE-1x123 and Mahi-HIVE-XP-L(HI) cool white 1x123.
    Got the cracked ice clips on both....
    Congrats ! ...

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    greatscoot,
    Nice photo. I decided against the 2x123 for now but will revisit later. I was concerned about length in my front pocket so I went with two 1x123 builds based on Don's suggestion. Will advise when they arrive. Your Sundrop is very nice. I'm very tempted but need to wait for now. Thanks for the pic.

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    Thanks Arch. I appreciate everyone's willingness to provide good advice. Will post the lights when they arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiRider22 View Post
    Thanks Arch. I appreciate everyone's willingness to provide good advice....
    We try, cheers
    ... is the archimedes peak

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    Red,
    Impressive collection! I look forward to your suggestions on spare parts. Looking at a Sapphire for keychain carry. What do you think?

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    On CPF, we're good at spending your money....

    ... is the archimedes peak

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    In the famous words of the Mask, "Somebody stop me".

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    TiRider22,

    Both lights are are great choices. As for the batteries, any of the name brand protected RCR123's should be fine. I like the AW protected 16340's.

    I am am certain you will love these lights. Please let us know when you get them. Don ships very fast so it should be soon.

    Best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiRider22 View Post
    Red,
    Impressive collection! I look forward to your suggestions on spare parts. Looking at a Sapphire for keychain carry. What do you think?
    That is the best AAA light you can get. I love mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiRider22 View Post
    greatscoot,
    Nice photo. I decided against the 2x123 for now but will revisit later. I was concerned about length in my front pocket so I went with two 1x123 builds based on Don's suggestion. Will advise when they arrive. Your Sundrop is very nice. I'm very tempted but need to wait for now. Thanks for the pic.
    The 2x123 is really nice with the Sundrop, and I would agree that with the Haiku or Mahi head it is a bit long for pocket carry. Congrats on your purchase, you won't be disappointed.
    "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    That is the best AAA light you can get. I love mine.
    Ned, do you have the cool white or warm white?
    "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal"

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    Here is another Mix and Match picture.
    "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal"

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