Inova X1: how about a wide beam version
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TonkinWarrior
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Re: Innova X1: how about a wide beam version
Raven, that's a great idea.
There's a noticeable performance (brightness) drop-off between my old Infinity Ultra-G and my new Gerber Infinity Ultra, and the Gerber's finish isn't as tough, either.
While ALL Inovas are nifty THROW-biased lights, it looks like there could be a real market opportunity here for them. The Inova X1 is about 0.7 longer than the Ultra, but that shouldn't thwart re-engineering its optics to make it a good "spiller" like the old CMG Infinity Ultra.
On the other hand, the X1 occupies such a unique product niche, Inova may be reluctant to mess with its image. Then, there's also the competition from the multiple PEAK lights and Peter Gransee's new ARC line-up for them to consider.
My green LED X1 "spotlight" throws a 7 ft. wide beam at 50 ft. in non-ambient lit shadows Outside. So, I'd hate to see it eliminated for another spill-light. If Inova could make an ADDITIONAL spill version as you suggest (and at a similar cost), I think they'd have a winner.
Raven, that's a great idea.
There's a noticeable performance (brightness) drop-off between my old Infinity Ultra-G and my new Gerber Infinity Ultra, and the Gerber's finish isn't as tough, either.
While ALL Inovas are nifty THROW-biased lights, it looks like there could be a real market opportunity here for them. The Inova X1 is about 0.7 longer than the Ultra, but that shouldn't thwart re-engineering its optics to make it a good "spiller" like the old CMG Infinity Ultra.
On the other hand, the X1 occupies such a unique product niche, Inova may be reluctant to mess with its image. Then, there's also the competition from the multiple PEAK lights and Peter Gransee's new ARC line-up for them to consider.
My green LED X1 "spotlight" throws a 7 ft. wide beam at 50 ft. in non-ambient lit shadows Outside. So, I'd hate to see it eliminated for another spill-light. If Inova could make an ADDITIONAL spill version as you suggest (and at a similar cost), I think they'd have a winner.
Re: Innova X1: how about a wide beam version
Yeah, that's what I meant. Two different versions. Like a lot of folks, if I had known what was going to happen, I would have probably bought several of the classic Infinity Ultras, before it was too late.
Yeah, that's what I meant. Two different versions. Like a lot of folks, if I had known what was going to happen, I would have probably bought several of the classic Infinity Ultras, before it was too late.
TonkinWarrior
Enlightened
Re: Innova X1: how about a wide beam version
Yep, the old CMG Infinity Ultras are classics. Though hard to find, they're still out there. I believe Product Wizard and Factory 101 still shows 'em on their web sites (unless they've quietly replaced 'em with the Gerbers, as Strobe-Light seems to have done).
It also just occurred to me that I've overlooked the Inova X5 in this equation. As Inova's only "spill" light, I wonder if the X5 might actually compete with a new spill-version of the X1?
Still, if Inova could make an an X1 "spiller" for $20, with Throw and Output rated about 4 and 5 (per QuickBeam/FLR's measurements), don't you think they'd have a pretty strong entry... albeit in a fairly competitive market niche?
Yep, the old CMG Infinity Ultras are classics. Though hard to find, they're still out there. I believe Product Wizard and Factory 101 still shows 'em on their web sites (unless they've quietly replaced 'em with the Gerbers, as Strobe-Light seems to have done).
It also just occurred to me that I've overlooked the Inova X5 in this equation. As Inova's only "spill" light, I wonder if the X5 might actually compete with a new spill-version of the X1?
Still, if Inova could make an an X1 "spiller" for $20, with Throw and Output rated about 4 and 5 (per QuickBeam/FLR's measurements), don't you think they'd have a pretty strong entry... albeit in a fairly competitive market niche?
Re: Innova X1: how about a wide beam version
Factory 101. I Googled them, and all I got was a fashion site.
Do you have a link?
Anyone who wants to suggest this idea to Inova can contact them at: [email protected]
Factory 101. I Googled them, and all I got was a fashion site.
Do you have a link?
Anyone who wants to suggest this idea to Inova can contact them at: [email protected]
TonkinWarrior
Enlightened
Re: Innova X1: how about a wide beam version
Raven:
Try Googling "factory101" (with no space before 101). Their website shows the CMG Infinity Ultra (white LED) for $17.88. I haven't ordered from them, so I suggest you check w/them to confirm that it's a actually a CMG, not a Gerber.
Product Wizard (who recently got high marks from a fellow-CPF'er) also shows the Infinity Ultra... at the bottom of a drop-down that first lists a bunch of less-desireable regular Infinities. The Ultra is the last one.
I recently ordered one from Strobe-Light. Their website shows a CMG Inf. Ultra (at a good price). However, they shipped me a Gerber. I think a lot of big outfits don't make the distinction between the two (CMG vs. Gerber) as we do.
Let us know if ya get good results.
Raven:
Try Googling "factory101" (with no space before 101). Their website shows the CMG Infinity Ultra (white LED) for $17.88. I haven't ordered from them, so I suggest you check w/them to confirm that it's a actually a CMG, not a Gerber.
Product Wizard (who recently got high marks from a fellow-CPF'er) also shows the Infinity Ultra... at the bottom of a drop-down that first lists a bunch of less-desireable regular Infinities. The Ultra is the last one.
I recently ordered one from Strobe-Light. Their website shows a CMG Inf. Ultra (at a good price). However, they shipped me a Gerber. I think a lot of big outfits don't make the distinction between the two (CMG vs. Gerber) as we do.
Let us know if ya get good results.
voodoogreg
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Innova X1: how about a wide beam version
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TonkinWarrior said:
Raven:
Try Googling "factory101" (with no space before 101). Their website shows the CMG Infinity Ultra (white LED) for $17.88. I haven't ordered from them, so I suggest you check w/them to confirm that it's a actually a CMG, not a Gerber.
Product Wizard (who recently got high marks from a fellow-CPF'er) also shows the Infinity Ultra... at the bottom of a drop-down that first lists a bunch of less-desireable regular Infinities. The Ultra is the last one.
I recently ordered one from Strobe-Light. Their website shows a CMG Inf. Ultra (at a good price). However, they shipped me a Gerber. I think a lot of big outfits don't make the distinction between the two (CMG vs. Gerber) as we do.
Let us know if ya get good results.
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I don't know about product wizard, I have had a photon on back order since jan, and have not got return phone or E-mail replies after many attempts. but that's just my case. VDG
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TonkinWarrior said:
Raven:
Try Googling "factory101" (with no space before 101). Their website shows the CMG Infinity Ultra (white LED) for $17.88. I haven't ordered from them, so I suggest you check w/them to confirm that it's a actually a CMG, not a Gerber.
Product Wizard (who recently got high marks from a fellow-CPF'er) also shows the Infinity Ultra... at the bottom of a drop-down that first lists a bunch of less-desireable regular Infinities. The Ultra is the last one.
I recently ordered one from Strobe-Light. Their website shows a CMG Inf. Ultra (at a good price). However, they shipped me a Gerber. I think a lot of big outfits don't make the distinction between the two (CMG vs. Gerber) as we do.
Let us know if ya get good results.
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I don't know about product wizard, I have had a photon on back order since jan, and have not got return phone or E-mail replies after many attempts. but that's just my case. VDG
