Surefire E1E, what drop in LED?

[bigchelis]

I have read coutless reviews on how to upgrade these tiny but practical EDC lights. I know you can put aftermarket head bezels that have LED's built in but they cost $70 to $80 dollars.
I been spoiled with Malkoffs M60, Cree R2, Cree Q5 drop in LED's and want to know what drop ins similar to these exist for the E1E?

 

[matt0]

There are no E-series drop ins (well, there's one but its fairly expensive and is not a production model like the D26 dropins)

 

[Robocop]

Check the forums for Lumens Factory lamps. I have several of their incandescents and they are simply amazing for the little single cell E1E. I have not visited their site in a while however they may have something new....not sure if they are producing luxeon drop ins as of yet however it may be worth a look to see.

 

[bigchelis]

Check the forums for Lumens Factory lamps. I have several of their incandescents and they are simply amazing for the little single cell E1E. I have not visited their site in a while however they may have something new....not sure if they are producing luxeon drop ins as of yet however it may be worth a look to see.

Lumens Factory lamps are specifically made for the E1E. They are inexpensive $14. Are they are drop-ins, or do I need to do some mods?

 

[bigchelis]

I see there are E to C adaptors for sale $27 dollars. I already have extra drop-ins, so I guess this would work. Suppose I put my Malkoff M60 in it. I would run my cr123 3.7v 1000mah.

What do you folks think my run time be?
What about output?

I think 1 hour and 100 lumens are possible. Considering the size of the E1E its a perfect package. I would also put my stock 6P head bezel on it. I will posts pix when I get it together.:twothumbs

 

[Robocop]

I have 4 of the Lumens Factory lamps and each one can be changed out in maybe 15 seconds with no modding at all....they are a true drop in replacement. The highest powered versions come in at 90 lumens I believe and must use the R123 cell. I think there next step down is a 50 lumen version also with R123 cells and the lowest version is 40 lumens on a standard 123 battery.

 

[totalazneclipse]

Sorry to bring back an old thread, but I just picked up a E1E Winelight and although I am impressed with how much light it puts out for its size, I would like to run something brighter. I know that koala was selling the MicroTower but sales are closed so, I would like to know if anyone else is putting something similar like that out or if its possible to do something myself.

I know switching heads is possible, but I want to carry it with the stock head and without modifying the stock head.

So basically, I want to achieve the following:

-A significantly brighter output using primary 123A's (Not rechargeable)
-Using the stock head
-No modifications to the head or body.

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

[RyanA]

I'd say go with an A19 head and a Mcr19xr and a Cree light engine with suitable driver, I'd say no more than 700ma for a primary cell.


I right now I'm edc'ing an A19 setup with an r2 at 1.2a and an IMR 16340. It is small yet absurdly bright.

 

[jumpstat]

Lumensfactory makes excellent dropins

 

[totalazneclipse]

I'd say go with an A19 head and a Mcr19xr and a Cree light engine with suitable driver, I'd say no more than 700ma for a primary cell.


I right now I'm edc'ing an A19 setup with an r2 at 1.2a and an IMR 16340. It is small yet absurdly bright.

I don't really want to change out the head because its a Winelight version.

Lumensfactory makes excellent dropins

I heard about the Lumens factory being a good incan drop-in, but I was shooting for a LED alternative.

 

[geegee]

I don't really want to change out the head because its a Winelight version.


I heard about the Lumens factory being a good incan drop-in, but I was shooting for a LED alternative.

Same here. My Winelight has never left it's packaging, as I've held out hope for an LED drop in.

 

[Robocop]

I believe the problem with no modifications to the light and using an LED drop in will be very difficult for the E1E. I have tried to figure out a way however the factory reflector design makes it very hard to do with a drop in luxeon.

The base of the reflector where the emitter would rest is recessed and thick and even if you can somehow fit a drop in circuit inside the bezel the emitter can not fit inside the bottom of the reflector deep enough to really do any good. You would need to have some sort of pedestal mount design to allow the emitter to rest higher inside the reflector and even so the bottom of the reflector would have to be enlarded as it is designed for the thin incandescent lamp.

The LF 40 lumen drop in uses standard 123 cells and honestly is a very good improvement over the factory lamp. The brightness and whiter tint is easy to notice and it gives a pretty good runtime for the single cell power source. Now that I think about it there are not really very many single 123 incandescents to choose from that can match this set up.

 

[RyanA]

What Robocop says is correct. Because of the integral reflector, adding a led to the incan head requires a lot of modification (machining, unpotting, etc.) and is pretty much irreversible. There are some cases where this has been done, I can post links if you are still interested. However an add on head is the best option if you'd like reversibility.

 

[totalazneclipse]

I guess the lumens factory is the only upgrade I can do to retain the ability to use the stock head.

Thanks for the help guys!

 

[horizonseeker]

There were a limited amount of E-series drop in with rebels created and sold. you might want to post a "want to buy" in the market place, they sometimes come up for sale but I can probably count the times they have on one hand.

 

[divine]

There is a little buzz going around that there might be something available in the next couple of months.

 

[RyanA]

It's kind of a bummer I don't mean to be a dreamkiller. But maybe with the new cree xpe coming out there would be some potential.

 

[Lightguru1]

There is a little buzz going around that there might be something available in the next couple of months.

Please keep us posted !! :thumbsup:

 

[DaFABRICATA]

There is a little buzz going around that there might be something available in the next couple of months.

What?

I have heard no "BUZZ"..

Can you give a link or explain a bit more please?.....

 

[DHart]

I understand your quest. Here's what I have done... a drop-ON, not a drop-in. (Thanks to Justin Case for recommending this!)

While you wait for the perfect LED drop-in, why not just spend the $80 for a TLS Cree Q5 head and enjoy brilliant output from your little E1e and tuck your Winelight head safely away.

I power this with an AW protected RCR123 and the output is very close to the 220 lumens rated Jet III-Military.

TLS Cree Q5 on E1e body - 1*RCR123

Here's the Malkoff M60 you are familiar with:

Malkoff M60 - 2*17500

And...
Jet III-Military - 1*18650

With the right head on it, the little E1e is a real pocket rocket! I LOVE my TLS/E1e set-up.