Foursevens Preon P0

[shelm]

green tint on the DQG II? first time that i'm hearing this. Should have chosen the NeutralWhite emitter option

yah, maybe a few more close-ups would be a nice contribution, thanks!!

 

[jorn]

I would if it were in stock back then. Some jerks bought them all before i noticed hehe I hoped for a simple led swap, but it turned out to be close to impossible. But im still (to my suprice), really happy with my tiny greeny
I got exited when i heared of the new ti run. And now this little p0 flood gem shows up. Im on the fence to see if there is going to be a neutral run. Good times for tiny aaa fans

Really nice pictures. But I couldent tell if it's a groove there for the o-ring, or if the o-ring rides directly on the end of the threads.

 

[NickBose]

I wish 4Seven makes something like the "CQG S1 World's thinest CREE XP-G R3 1xAAA EDC Flashlight" with a deep pocket clip

 

[Got Lumens?]

I just got mine :wave:
I am impressed, I just opened it, and they have included a plastic reuseable hard storage case!
Way to go 4 Sevens. More later tonight.
GL

 

[romteb]

This is extremely similar to the DQG II, i hope Mr Duqingang has been associated to the marketing of the product, if not 4sevens better not go on whinning about being copied.

 

[Streamer]

Whoahhhhhh....DUDES.....just opened it up and played the last hour... This little torch is GREAT!

Can't believe the packaging...like jewelry. If 4 7's went Green on the packaging, we could probably get it for half price...LOL

User Interface..perfect. Manget's Great..

GID :thumbsup: What a GLOWER !

No bouncing around between modes.
Low for nite navigation...Hi for lookin' 'round LOvE iT !!!

 

[henry1960]

Whoahhhhhh....DUDES.....just opened it up and played the last hour... This little torch is GREAT!

Can't believe the packaging...like jewelry. If 4 7's went Green on the packaging, we could probably get it for half price...LOL

User Interface..perfect. Manget's Great..GID :thumbsup: No bouncing around between modes.
Low for navigation...Hi for lookin' LOvE iT !!!

Does this light stand up candle style?

 

[Streamer]

Yes it does.

 

[shelm]

This is extremely similar to the DQG II, i hope Mr Duqingang has been associated to the marketing of the product, if not 4sevens better not go on whinning about being copied.

quick comparison between the two off the top of my head (strong points on one side would be the weak points on the other side; only strong points liste):

Preon P0:
+ better packaging
+ better looks. really elegant, classy.
+ better keychain attachment point
+ better guarantee (10yrs performance)
+ better machining, professional built quality
+ better o-ring solution
+ better brand, publicity, community feeling and popularity (More popular is better, right?)
+ better price & availability
+ better low (Lower Lo is better, right?)

DQG Tiny III:
+ better material (titanium)
+ better knurling
+ better tint (neutralwhite LED option, 1$ extra)
+ better beam pattern (smaller flood angle)
+ better high (Higher Hi is better, right?)
+ better LiIon support, 10440's
+ better exclusivity ( rev.I sold out, rev.II sold out, rev.III limited edition)

Why decide? Both are affordable, get them both. Support the makers of tiny lights! :thumbsup:

 

[jorn]

Why decide? Both are affordable, get them both. Support the makers of tiny lights! :thumbsup:

I just got off the fence and ordered one. Im sure i can afford a neutral P0 or DQG when (if) it arrives

 

[shelm]

i hold the line behind the fence armed with some third-class AAA lights and my bit of pocket money.
got no problem with that *ggg*

drooling is part of the fun

 

[Streamer]

True Colors

 

[jonnyfgroove]

This thing looks too cool to not try one. Order placed. I hope they are tough enough to survive on my keys as long as my E01 has.

 

[4sevens]

This is extremely similar to the DQG II, i hope Mr Duqingang has been associated to the marketing of the product, if not 4sevens better not go on whinning about being copied.

It's nothing like the dqg - in fact it wasn't even inspired by it. I didn't know about the dqg until this thread.

By the way the glow in the dark piece is a a rubber injection part impregnated with glow in the dark material. It was a minor thing that was added near the end of the prototyping stage.
It's one of my daughter's favorite things about the light

 

[4sevens]

quick comparison between the two off the top of my head (strong points on one side would be the weak points on the other side; only strong points liste):

I dont' know about the dqg but the P0 is FULLY currently regulated, efficiently using every little bit of the tiny AAA battery. Also I see our wider beam pattern as a plus. It covers almost your entire peripheral vision

 

[mrlysle]

I have a DQG II tiny, but it's in SS. (someone mentioned having one in Ti, nice!) Very nice little light, but has already been said, the keychain attachment point was not sturdy, and the magnet fell out right away. Fortunately, it was still stuck to some metal on my keychain. I was able to rework the wire coming through the body, and epoxied the magnet back in place. That being said, I also just ordered the little PO. It looks awesome! Can't wait to get it! These little AAA lights just disappear in your pocket. I'm thinking of keeping my PO in the "watch" pocket of my jeans. I love the keychain attachment point, and the magnet really is handy for hands free light placement. I think David's got a real winner on his hands here! Hope the tint is good. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'll get some more,and equip my wife and boys with one! Streamer's got me all psyched up for mine now!

 

[Shooter21]

I wonder why they chose the xpe for this guy. Cant wait to get mine i love how tiny it is.

 

[4sevens]

I have a DQG II tiny, but it's in SS. (someone mentioned having one in Ti, nice!) Very nice little light, but has already been said, the keychain attachment point was not sturdy, and the magnet fell out right away. Fortunately, it was still stuck to some metal on my keychain. I was able to rework the wire coming through the body, and epoxied the magnet back in place. That being said, I also just ordered the little PO. It looks awesome! Can't wait to get it! These little AAA lights just disappear in your pocket. I'm thinking of keeping my PO in the "watch" pocket of my jeans. I love the keychain attachment point, and the magnet really is handy for hands free light placement. I think David's got a real winner on his hands here! Hope the tint is good. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'll get some more,and equip my wife and boys with one! Streamer's got me all psyched up for mine now!

I wonder why there are so many revisions for the dqg - while collectors may see this as reason to collect but but maybe they are just fixing problems as they sell out the previous? We went through so many design iterations to make sure we got it right the first time. Before we make the final product we refine so many things - industrial design, manufacturing optimization, and usability to name a few.
By the way the P0's magnet is press fit so it should never ever fall out.

I wonder why they chose the xpe for this guy. Cant wait to get mine i love how tiny it is.

XPE vs XPG doesn't matter much at such a low drive level and optically it's the same since it's a flood-type light so we opted for the less expensive xpe to offer them at a lower price so more people can enjoy this little wonder

By the way the P0's orders are streaming in so fast I don't think we'll make it through the weekend. We may be dry for a few weeks before the next batch comes in.

 

[mrlysle]

I wonder why there are so many revisions for the dqg - while collectors may see this as reason to collect but but maybe they are just fixing problems as they sell out the previous? We went through so many design iterations to make sure we got it right the first time. Before we make the final product we refine so many things - industrial design, manufacturing optimization, and usability to name a few.
By the way the P0's magnet is press fit so it should never ever fall out.

XPE vs XPG doesn't matter much at such a low drive level and optically it's the same since it's a flood-type light so we opted for the less expensive xpe to offer them at a lower price so more people can enjoy this little wonder

By the way the P0's orders are streaming in so fast I don't think we'll make it through the weekend. We may be dry for a few weeks before the next batch comes in.

Good to hear David! Every light I've ever gotten from you has been great, and I'm sure the little PO will be no exception. (I still think the limited run 123x2 Turbo S3 in titanium I got in 2010 has some of the best machining of any light I have. It's perfection in every detail!) Best of luck to 4Sevens in the coming years!

 

[shelm]

in marshall's SHOT 2012 booth review it was mentioned that a Titanium version would look the same as the SS version. of course they will do (similar to Klarus MiX6 SS and Klarus MiX6 Ti). Titanium is even more resistant and lightweight.

but now i am thinking that titanium is not a good idea.
( btw, what would be destroyed first with a 10440 -- the PCB or the LED? :devil: )