SHOT Show 2012: Surefire 'New Products'

[Tommygun45]

Thank god. I am sure they could have figured out a way to tweak the E2DL head and stick it on the E1b body. If they needed more voltage, we are all for it. Let us run an RCR in an E1b for the love of God. People have been making E1bl's for a while now. About time they caught up.

 

[Size15's]

Careful with your expectations given SureFire is proposing their own label rechargeable battery

 

[pulstar]

I am really impressed with the lights they showed this Shot Show and suprised by the recent discounts of almost the whole Surefire line. What they're up to? For example, my long wanted M3LT goes around 280$ at some vendors, which means i won't just dream about it anymore, with that kind of price i can (almost) afford it!
If they come out with just a half of the light they presented, this's gonna really good year for us flashaholics (and quite bad for our wallets)

 

[jh333233]

Another guess again: SF uses LiFePO4
Reasons:
-Reliability
-Stability, no explosion
-Allows delivery of large current
-Can withstand deeper over discharge than LiCoO2(?)
-Similar voltage with Cr123a(important for duel fuel lights)

 

[pjandyho]

Another guess again: SF uses LiFePO4
Reasons:
-Reliability
-Stability, no explosion
-Allows delivery of large current
-Can withstand deeper over discharge than LiCoO2(?)
-Similar voltage with Cr123a(important for duel fuel lights)

SF mentioned that they are using proprietary Lithium Ion batteries. AFAIK the only light that is using Lithium Phosphate is the EB1.

 

[nitehead]

the only light that is using Lithium Phosphate is the EB1.

The lithium phosphates are not limited to the EB1, I think. Have a look at page 19 & 126 of the 2012 catalogue where they are mentioned generally

 

[pjandyho]

The lithium phosphates are not limited to the EB1, I think. Have a look at page 19 & 126 of the 2012 catalogue where they are mentioned generally

Well, until Surefire come up with the new lights we probably won't know for sure because they also kept mentioning that they use lithium ion rechargeables. Whatever chemistry they use, I am happy as long as it is rechargeable.

 

[Federal LG]

Me too.

And I expect pics... a lot of new pictures!

 

[Federal LG]

I found one video, from Marshall (GG). You can see two EB1! One black and one silver colored. They look like a little bigger than E1B, but I still like them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SAR2Ve-JY

Unfortunately they don´t focus on the lights... hahaha!

 

[Lodogg2221]

EB1 is .4" longer and bezel is .1" larger in diameter...dont mind the small increase in bezel diameter, but the length already isnt far off of the LX2...now its even closer.

Really wanted to get the Fury and M3LT at the new lower prices, but holding off for the Lawman.
They said in that video early March.
Right around the corner! I cant wait, but my wife sure can...lol.

 

[Flashlight Dave]

1.1" bezel means that surefire needs some new filters and diffuser. The old f04 won't fit.

 

[KDOG3]

Anyone know if the EB1 has a new driver or is it just really a new led? I would love to find out that it has a low starting voltage like .8v or better to run off a single AA. Just a dream though.

 

[Tommygun45]

How about the Invictus dropping to $385. That's quite the reduction. We must assume that something is going to fill that 5-600 price point right? Also, if they are still selling the Invictus and these new lights which I presume have the same 2.5" diameter head any chance they will resume production of the FM-24? How useful is that diffuser for these TIR lights? Keep making them!

Also I used to run my 6PX pro off a AW17670 without issue. Surely the new lights should be able to handle li-ions I hope.

Hey look, my 300th post. Ahh this hobby takes alot of my time. But it sure is fun!

 

[pulstar]

Yes, and M3LT for 277$! Almost a bargain! Well, 17670 with 3.7V rated voltage really shouldn't be a problem for a light, made for 2xCR123 batteries If the starting prices were like they're now, i'd surely already own at least M3LT...

 

[Lodogg2221]

Tommygun, where do you see the reduction in output to 385 on the Invictus? Catalog shows 800...what am I missing

Nevermind...you are talking price...duh!

 

[KROMATICS]

How about the Invictus dropping to $385. That's quite the reduction. We must assume that something is going to fill that 5-600 price point right?

I imagine the UBR Invictus (rechargable) will fill the UB3T Invictus' original price point. Those price drops are a bitter pill to swallow for those of us who bought one recently. Ouch.

 

[276]

I imagine the UBR Invictus (rechargable) will fill the UB3T Invictus' original price point. Those price drops are a bitter pill to swallow for those of us who bought one recently. Ouch.

I know how you feel i got the UB3T in DEC.

 

[Vox Clamatis in Deserto]

I imagine the UBR Invictus (rechargable) will fill the UB3T Invictus' original price point. Those price drops are a bitter pill to swallow for those of us who bought one recently.Ouch.

I know how you feel i got the UB3T in DEC.

I share your pain. I was thinking about buying another UB3T at the new price so I could cut my losses.

I'll observe that every year when we complain about the SF price increases, the thread always gets closed. Now that we are complaining about a SF price cut, our discussion is allowed to run unfettered.:thumbsup:

 

[kyhunter1]

Bring on the Surefire price cuts. Long overdue! I understand how you all feel, I paid $149 for a new Fury just a day before the drop to $108. I really like the light and not complaining about it anyhow.

 

[Robert_M]

You guys act like we could have waited a month or two before buying a Fury or other SF product. We're FLASHAHOLICS!!!! We have a serious addiction!!! I don't care if I paid more than the people who waited so long!!! I've been able to use my Fury for a much longer time then those people who are just buying one now!!!