2017 EagleTac D25 Ti Series

[gunga]

Seems to be the same UI. Not my favourite but it's ok.

 

[twistedraven]

I have to agree.

I have a 2015 D25C Nichia and I recently thought I was buying a 2015 D25A Nichia, but ended up with a 2017. I like the new finish but I think I miss the knurling.

But it doesn't matter, I'm probably returning it due to the tint. I wanted the light for the 5000K and AA configuration on what I already had, specifically. After receiving it, becoming confused and comparing it, I just don't like it. In theory 5700K may not have been a deal breaker for me, but I have a hard time believing what I'm seeing is 92 CRI. It does not look anything like any of the other Nichia 219 lights I have. It's still a tad warmer than my cool white lights from what I can tell, so I can see why it could still qualify as "neutral", but blues are very exaggerated and it doesn't feel nearly as pleasant.

I will try to take some comparison photos this weekend, if I can. It's still a good light, but if you wanted the 5000K emitter and are wondering if this one is close enough, it doesn't look like it to me. Tint isn't everything to me, but I bought the light for it, and it did not deliver.

Sorry to hear about your displeasure withe the tint on the LED. If it's the same LED that's used in the Jaxman E2 that I have (which it should be), I find it to have an amazing color rendition, and I greatly prefer it over the warmer 4500k variants. I will get pictures of them up sometime as well. Tint is mostly preference though, and I know a lot of people gravitate towards warmer in the first place. I just can't seem to think that this LED would look distinctly low CRI though.

 

[jon_slider]

I have a hard time believing what I'm seeing is 92 CRI. It does not look anything like any of the other Nichia 219 lights I have.

I hope someone with instruments capable of measuring CCT and CRI will enlighten us

… same LED that's used in the Jaxman E2…

I will believe that when I see a spectrograph from maukka

 

[jpwaffles]

Just bought a 2015 Eagletac D25A on Amazon and received a 2017 model. In any case here's a photo comparison to 2 other Nichia lights that I have plus a Streamlight Microstream for the cool end. Forgive me but I don't know all of the different types of Nichia 219 but I'll list the model of flashlight and hopefully you guys can fill in the blanks.

Left to Right:
Lumintop Tool / Reylight Custom Nichia 219 L/M/H
Peak Eiger Overready Version Nichia 219
2017 Eagletac D25A Nichia 219 5700K
Streamlight Microstream C4

The rosy tint of the Lumintop is my favorite. Sad to say but I think this Eagletac is going back. I really wanted a AA light but might have to go for the CR123 version IF it's in fact still a 2015 model on Amazon.

 

[jon_slider]

The rosy tint of the Lumintop is my favorite. Sad to say but I think this Eagletac is going back.

Great photo!
Thanks for including the Lumintop Tool as a reference. The ET looks blue! by comparison, that really surprised me.

I hope you find a light that works better for you. My AA of choice is the 4 mode L11c with Nichia, middle light:

Here are the beam colors
left to right, N219b Tool, N219b L11c, XP-G2 Maratac

 

[recDNA]

EagleTac is refreshing the D25C and D25A titanium editons! Anybody know of the release date on these?

The 2015 D25A Ti is part of my current EDC and this 2017 edition is supposedly a bit brighter.

[h=3]D25C RC TI Max output:
CREE XP-L HD V6 LED: 521 LED lumen
CREE XP-L HI V3 LED: 450 LED lumen
Nichia 219B-V1 CRI92 5700K D220 LED: 300 LED lumen

D25A RC TI Max output:
CREE XP-L HD V6 LED: 230 LED lumen
CREE XP-L HI V3 LED: 200 LED lumen
Nichia 219B-V1 CRI92 5700K D220 LED: 132 LED lumen[/h]

Are numbers different with li ion?

 

[jpwaffles]

My AA of choice is the 4 mode L11c with Nichia

Nice, that's actually on my list. It doesn't hurt that the price is very reasonable.

 

[asdalton]

I just ordered the 2015 version D25C with XP-L HI V3 and received the 2017 version.

I would have preferred to have knurling on the head, but the new design still works fine. The LED tint is much nicer than the very cool white that my 2014 version with XP-G2 has. I have no idea if the tints of the 2017 version are consistent.

 

[Dishonor39]

Does anyone have an actual measurement on the D25A version of this 2017 model? They look slightly longer than the previous years despite having the same reported measurement on the website. Is it just the design that is fooling my eyes into making me think it is slightly longer than 3.4 inches?

 

[Taz80]

I have a 2014 alum and the 2017 Ti, they are the same length.

 

[zeally]

Would anyone be able to post a comparison beamshot of all the various AA battery Eagletac nichias side by side? Including the new Nichia 219c 4000k sold by illuminationgear.

Also Budgetlightforum regulars noticed in 2014 that the AR coating on the lens was making the corona spill a deep blue colour. Has this gone from the 2017 Titaniums or is it still there?

 

[gurdygurds]

I just received a 2017 aluminum body with the nichia and was surprised by the tint as it's nowhere close to my other nichia lights. Contacted the dealer, who compared this light with the new titanium models and said the beam tint is the same between the two. I didn't realize they were this cool and much rather prefer the warmer nichias.
Left to right, Mdc aa nichia, copper tool with nichia mod, and the Eagletac nichia. Also the blue ring on this new model is very pronounced on my copy.image by Six Pound Cat, on Flickr

 

[jon_slider]

Left to Right:
Lumintop Tool / Reylight Custom Nichia 219 L/M/H
Peak Eiger Overready Version Nichia 219
2017 Eagletac D25A Nichia 219 5700K
Streamlight Microstream C4

...I think this Eagletac is going back.

I just received a 2017 aluminum body with the nichia and was surprised by the tint as it's nowhere close to my other nichia lights….

thanks for sharing photos

 

[vadimax]

I just received a 2017 aluminum body with the nichia and was surprised by the tint as it's nowhere close to my other nichia lights. Contacted the dealer, who compared this light with the new titanium models and said the beam tint is the same between the two. I didn't realize they were this cool and much rather prefer the warmer nichias.
Left to right, Mdc aa nichia, copper tool with nichia mod, and the Eagletac nichia. Also the blue ring on this new model is very pronounced on my copy.image by Six Pound Cat, on Flickr

They list their Nichia as 5700°K.

 

[lebox97]

Guy's,
Nichia 219b or 219c etc is not a tint/CCT.

as mentioned, and FYI
EagTac offers Nichia 219b LED in 4700K (standard) or 5700K (optional) CCT, and the new Nichia 219c LED in 4000K ~ in several models of their lights.
ie. there are three different Nichia CCT/temps available from ET, ALL of which have a CRI of 92.

The output color does not determine the CRI, or vice versa.
the pics above only show CCT temperatures of those different LED's using that particular camera and it's settings,
not the color accuracy/CRI of the particular LED.

EDIT: And the selling Dealers need to clearly identify which LED and CCT they are offering for sale.

Cheers

 

[zeally]

The Eagletac nichia has a much smaller hotspot than the other two. Is that due to the led itself, or the head's dimensions and reflector type?

 

[gunga]

Yes.

LED size, reflector dimensions (and texture) causes that.

 

[jon_slider]

The Eagletac nichia has a much smaller hotspot than the other two. Is that due to the led itself, or the head's dimensions and reflector type?

It could just be a difference in the lumen levels
here are two identical lights with N219b, on the left at 1 lumen, on the right at 20 lumens

same 2 lights at 1 lumen on the left and 2.5 lumens on the right

 

[AVService]

I have actually been trying to buy a new D25A with the more neutral tint 219 and there only seem to be the 5700k versions around right now,the places that I shopped do list all three.

Guy's,
Nichia 219b or 219c etc is not a tint/CCT.

as mentioned, and FYI
EagTac offers Nichia 219b LED in 4700K (standard) or 5700K (optional) CCT, and the new Nichia 219c LED in 4000K ~ in several models of their lights.
ie. there are three different Nichia CCT/temps available from ET, ALL of which have a CRI of 92.

The output color does not determine the CRI, or vice versa.
the pics above only show CCT temperatures of those different LED's using that particular camera and it's settings,
not the color accuracy/CRI of the particular LED.

EDIT: And the selling Dealers need to clearly identify which LED and CCT they are offering for sale.

Cheers

 

[Strintguy]

Am I correct in understanding that the 219b draws less power than the 219c? Less output but more run time?