Foursevens Mini Mark II

DMS1970

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I dunno--looks to me like the new 4/7s Mini Mk II is going to use some sort of TIR optic as well:


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The proportions of the light look the same as the old reflectored Mk I Mini, but perhaps they had to pack in more electronics?

I like it better from this angle, but twisties are below side buttons for me, especially in a light this short. I do not find the very ergonomic.
 

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Funny how the Olight S Mini is shorter than this light despite this being a twisty.

The olight s mini is 2.5 in.
The foursevens mini ML is 2.3 in
I cant find info about the size of the mark II. Where did you find the specs for size?
 

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A cool looking light.

Really, How long could it maintain 1000 lumens or even 800 lumens? 30 seconds? Probably less,,,,,probably a burst mode for 10 seconds?! Understandably so all the manufacturers advertizing centers on max output,,,,,,in a way it is deception because they can never maintain that output for long.
 

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The olight s mini is 2.5 in.
The foursevens mini ML is 2.3 in
I cant find info about the size of the mark II. Where did you find the specs for size?

The Olight S Mini is 2.15"
I don't know the dimensions of the Mark II but it looks similar to the size of the 1st gen. Maybe a tad shorter in the head, so it could be shorter than the S Mini.
 

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For reasons best known to them, 4/7s has never been a big supporter of neutral tints or high-CRI lights. They always seemed to go for cools whites and maximum lumens, tint be damned.

Surprise! (and I would have included the Neutral, but there's nothing on its packaging indicating what it is..)

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Since perception is very non-linear; you could have 500 lumen boost mode with primary cr123A {for ~30 seconds}, and step down to 250 lumens. With special LiIon 1,000 lumens for 30 seconds, then step down to 250 lumens.
 
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I counted the number of "diamonds" in one column of the knurling on both Mk I and II. The knurling closer to the rear had the same number of diamonds for both Mk I and II, but the knurling on the head had ~10% fewer diamonds on the Mk II which would indeed make it shorter than the Mk I.
 

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According to the Olight Store the length of the S-Mini is 2.5 in. or 54.5mm. 54.5mm equals 2.15 in. Which is it?:thinking:
 

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According to the Olight Store the length of the S-Mini is 2.5 in. or 54.5mm. 54.5mm equals 2.15 in. Which is it?:thinking:

I guess their store has a typo. Their website says 2.15 in. / 54.5mm. 2.5 in. which would make the S Mini longer than the 2.4 in. S1 which it's clearly not heh.
 

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Surprise! (and I would have included the Neutral, but there's nothing on its packaging indicating what it is..)

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Looks like new.

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The aa is neutral, beutiful tint. I had to mod the cr123 version myself to get neutral....
 

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S mini is still huge compared with foursevens attemt to make a mini light. The atom AL at 48,3 mm. He could still shave off some mm if he removed the keychain attatchment and magnet.
 

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Surprise! (and I would have included the Neutral, but there's nothing on its packaging indicating what it is..)

I'm not sure what you think the surprise is. I knew that 4/7s sometimes produced lights in Neutral and Warm, because I *own* several of them, and owned others that I no longer have. I have both Quarks and Mini AAs in Neutral and Warm.

Nonetheless, 4/7s never made NW and WW a standard option, available across the whole line. It was always a special offer, only on certain models, or a limited run, not always in stock. In the case of the Quarks, for instance, all of my NW lights were offered only in the Tactical configuration, which I liked much less than the standard configuration where you have access to all modes.

Go to their website right now, and what you will find is almost entirely cool white lights.

What you *won't* find is an option on every light saying "do you want this in CW or NW"? That's what e.g. ZL does--on every light, they give you that option, and on some lights they give you one or two more options for high CRI.

So maybe 4/7s will offer the new Mini Mk II in NW as well as CW, as a standard option, from the very start--I hope they will!

But that has not been their pattern. Their old pattern was to sell a lot of Cool Whites for the mass market, and then after a year or so offer a limited run of NWs for the specialists.
 

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Ouch--that's a sore point. For reasons best known to them, 4/7s has never been a big supporter of neutral tints or high-CRI lights. They always seemed to go for cools whites and maximum lumens, tint be damned.

Foursevens was one of the first main-stream manufacturers to even provide this option. To this day, many manufacturers – Fenix, Jetbeam, Nitecore – provide few, if any, high-CRI or warm-tint options.

David has explained repeatedly that this is an economic necessity — they invariably loose money on these runs. Some members clamor very loudly for the warm / high-CRI emitters, but few buy them.

Foursevens may not offer numerous emitters on every light, but this is far from a valid criticism.
 

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I will not hold my breath waiting for a NW offering from Foursevens, nor high-CRI. I presume that this light is using CW XM-L2, with optics similar to those that Olight has used on recent S1 Baton lights... which sounds pretty good to me. If I'm reading the blurb correctly, it will include a true Moonlight mode and a non-PWM driver. Sounds even better. The only thing that worries me is the clip design, the way it rests against the knurled part of the head... which you need to twist repeatedly to operate the light. It seems like that will make for a 'grating' UI ;)

Well, at least the clip looks to be removable. If so, I'm in for one.
 

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