4sevens EX10 (1xCR123A) and D10 (1xAA), ETA end of June - Teaser pic!

[patycake57]

B@rt ordering one pushed me over the edge. Paypal sent for an EX10!!!! At least I saw a picture of it before I ordered.

Great summary of this long and entertaining thread, orcinus!

 

[Niconical]

Thank you for the summary orcinus, very helpful :goodjob:

Unfortunately though you failed to confirm if the rodent runs on AA or CR123A.

Any info on that? :naughty:

 

[DavidD]

Well, if Nitecore is involved with these, the $59 could be a special pre-order price. I don't have an NDI, but didn't they do that for them? The price could go up at the time of the release. Speaking of price, CPF8 is the normal code for 8% off, what was 47s code that was 10% off of pre-orders? Is that still a working/valid code?

This is just complete speculation, but relating li-ion use with Fenix (I know this light has nothing to do with Fenix) - a multi-mode Fenix will work with a li-ion, but lose the lower levels. It has been stated that these will work properly with li-ion. Would 47s need have said this, if this is a single level light? Wouldn't a single level light just go into direct drive, but still work properly anyway? So, does that imply that this is a multi-level light?

 

[carrot]

Oh no! Get that mouse away from me :<

 

[mchlwise]

Thanks for the summaries orcinus.

I was wondering about this, though:

- nickel-plated, "hard", piston drive button

I haven't been able to keep up and read every post in the thread. Is there confirmation from someone who knows that it IS in fact going have a Piston? That's what it looks like to me as I posted above, but that's just my speculation as far as I know. :candle:

 

[mchlwise]

This is just complete speculation, but relating li-ion use with Fenix (I know this light has nothing to do with Fenix) - a multi-mode Fenix will work with a li-ion, but lose the lower levels. It has been stated that these will work properly with li-ion. Would 47s need have said this, if this is a single level light? Wouldn't a single level light just go into direct drive, but still work properly anyway? So, does that imply that this is a multi-level light?

Excellent question. If it indeed is a piston-drive mechanism, there is a very good possibility that it would be a one-mode light. This is also consistent with the "simple and intuitive" description.

Unless.... there is a "killroy" type of arrangement... with more royalties to McGizmo, of course.

:thinking:

 

[ackbar]

what's going on in this thread?!

Oh... we know YOU must have insider info... spill the beans or we will send ROD after you!

 

[AardvarkSagus]

I was under the concept that a piston drive was allowing for a dual level light dependent on button pressure. If I am in the wrong with this, could someone point me to more information on Piston Drive lights?

I also was curious as to where that PD information was actually confirmed rather than just not disputed. That's the only portion thus far that I have been questioning in the summaries.

 

[dracodoc]

It's MCU controlled, so I don't think it will be 1 mode.

Excellent question. If it indeed is a piston-drive mechanism, there is a very good possibility that it would be a one-mode light. This is also consistent with the "simple and intuitive" description.

Unless.... there is a "killroy" type of arrangement... with more royalties to McGizmo, of course.

:thinking:

 

[matrixshaman]

Or remember the preorder of Rexlight? I think there were hundreds of pre-orders, but many were dissapointed or cancelled the preorder.

4sevens is on a whole different and higher level than KD. I'm going to guess a couple things here and I haven't finished reading this thread. I stopped at post #474 to respond to it.

1 - 4sevens got together with Nitecore to do a special run for him
2 - That involved a bit of McGizmo design - probably the switch.
3 - tpman is toilet paper man - he's the night Janitor at Nitecore and was thus able to get these real pictures

 

[HoopleHead]

screw it, im down. i got faith! ordered a D10 + CPF8 + Insurance.

hopefully this is an NDI killer, and will replace that as my non-work EDC. long runtimes on primaries hopefully!

 

[swxb12]

Move over, JetBeam. This good stuff:

Leaked pics:

 

[carrot]

Thanks for the summaries orcinus.

I was wondering about this, though:



I haven't been able to keep up and read every post in the thread. Is there confirmation from someone who knows that it IS in fact going have a Piston? That's what it looks like to me as I posted above, but that's just my speculation as far as I know. :candle:

I cannot confirm nor deny.

 

[matrixshaman]

And 14500 cells have about 50% more energy in them than RCR123s do.

Not sure where you got that info but I don't believe that is correct. Battery experts welcome here but 14500 are usually about 900 mah at 3.6 volts. Most CR123 claim around 800-900 mah at 3.6 volts. Volts x Amps = Power. And that would seem to be about the same. Prove me wrong and I'll thank you but I have never seen reference to 14500's having more power. 18500's Yes, 17670's Yes, 18650's Oh yea but not 14500's AFAIK.

 

[Sgt. LED]

It's a piston allright.

The fact that nightcore makes it............I've gone from 118% that I'll like it to to 97%. Just because I don't have any firsthand experience with them yet. If there are any left after initial delivery and I am REALLY happy with EX10 I'll get the AA version too.

 

[WadeF]

I have no problem with Nitecore's quality. I'm sure if they make something to 4seven's specifications it will be fine. One of the biggest weaknesses with many of these Chinese lights is the switch. Well, looks like that will not be an issue with these lights thanks to McGizmo's element being used. So if the switch is solid, and the circuit is solid, these lights will hopefully be very reliable. I was very impressed with the machining of my NDI, so I'm sure they have the skills to make a good light for 4sevens.

 

[matrixshaman]

Here is my best AW RCR (out of 13) and my best AW 14500 (out of 2)

As you can see much better capacity and better ability to hold a higher voltage at the same discharge rate. (750ma)

Okay - I didn't get that far before the reply above. However AW's RCR123's are known to be a bit lower in capacity than some others - great cells but slightly less capacity partly due to the size being kept to match the primary size. Some slightly longer and fatter RCR123's do put out more current. Also based on your chart it looks more like a roughly 25% to 30% better output but not 50%.

 

[beeboy02]

Another image

 

[Sgt. LED]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Wade!

Now THOSE are small! COOL!!!!!!!!!! Optic?..................

 

[I came to the light...]

Another image

I take it the light with no lable showing is the EX10?

I've spent most of my time on CPF looking for an ultra-compact light that performs like the best. This may be it But I need more info