Ra Clicky Part 3

[LLCoolBeans]

The majority of us wanted the 120 lumen for 1 hour version.. Such that our demand outstripped Henry's ability to produce enough for us.

You make an excellent point here Enzo. If that is the case, and there just were not enough extra high efficiency emitters available to go around, then I completely understand Henry's decision.

However, from Henry's post, he made it seem like the reason was not the availability of higher than normal efficiency emitters, it was to simplify the product line. Which I find to be kind of lame. I liked having the option of paying a bit more to have something above average. No one else does that for their customers and I liked that system.

Oh, well. Whatever. At least it will save me a few bucks.

 

[luxlover]

You make an excellent point here Enzo. If that is the case, and there just were not enough extra high efficiency emitters available to go around, then I completely understand Henry's decision.

However, from Henry's post, he made it seem like the reason was not the availability of higher than normal efficiency emitters, it was to simplify the product line. Which I find to be kind of lame. I liked having the option of paying a bit more to have something above average. No one else does that for their customers and I liked that system.

Oh, well. Whatever. At least it will save me a few bucks.

Do you mean saving a few bucks from $230 to $180? If so, are you still with us, pal?

 

[LLCoolBeans]

Do you mean saving a few bucks from $230 to $180? If so, are you still with us, pal?

Not sure I understand your post. Yea, from $230 to $180 that's $50 less. Is that not a significant price difference?

 

[luxlover]

Not sure I understand your post. Yea, from $230 to $180 that's $50 less. Is that not a significant price difference?

Yes it is, when you are considering only 20lm difference on high between the 120C/120Cn and the 100C/100Cn. Does the savings soften you and make you want a Clicky?

 

[LLCoolBeans]

Yes it is, when you are considering only 20lm difference on high between the 120C/120Cn and the 100C/100Cn. Does the savings soften you and make you want a Clicky?

What? I think we have a misunderstanding here. I've wanted a Clicky since they were announced and I placed my pre-order for a 120-Cn if not on the first day they were available for pre-order, the first week for sure.

I'm saying that as disappointing as it is that the 120-Cn has been chopped from the product line, at least the clicky I will end up with will be $50 less expensive.

Ordering from the "plus" product line is just sort of an OCD thing for me, and probably for a lot of guys here. We realize that 20lm is negligable, but we still like to have the best of what is availible even if we have to pay a bit extra to get it.

Also, collector/resale value on the "plus" models is higher as they are more rare.

 

[paxxus]

luxlover, nice to have you back - you kind of disappeared when the HDS forum was terminated didn't you. I sense that you like HDS/Ra lights

 

[tebore]

Interesting "Marketing" decision.
Why not take it a step further and state the lumen output at the emitter like the "Competition" to get an even higher number. I'd like to think the people who buy the clicky aren't easily tricked by the numbers game.

I can't wait to see what reviews have to say when it gets in to hands of reviewers.

 

[luxlover]

What? I think we have a misunderstanding here. I've wanted a Clicky since they were announced and I placed my pre-order for a 120-Cn if not on the first day they were available for pre-order, the first week for sure.

I'm saying that as disappointing as it is that the 120-Cn has been chopped from the product line, at least the clicky I will end up with will be $50 less expensive.

Ordering from the "plus" product line is just sort of an OCD thing for me, and probably for a lot of guys here. We realize that 20lm is negligable, but we still like to have the best of what is availible even if we have to pay a bit extra to get it.

Also, collector/resale value on the "plus" models is higher as they are more rare.

You are the consummate flashaholic, while I am not. Everything you write is true. The $50 savings will still get you a great light. I am sure that from your first post earlier to now, you have accepted the reality and will embrace ownership of a 100C or 100Cn model for $180. You will forget about the defunct 120lm whosewhatsit lights and use your light well. Just think that with the saved $50, you will be able to buy all or part of a 17670 accessory case, tailor made for the Clicky!! :twothumbs

May the force be with us all that the storks don't go on strike!

Jeff

 

[dtsoll]

Haha, Hi jeff, great entrance!! I'm proud of you man!! Doug

 

[Enzo Morocioli]

You will forget about the defunct 120lm whosewhatsit lights and use your light well.

Never forget....

And Jeff.. Quit trolling. :nana:

 

[thermal guy]

OK now that you brought up the tube,here is where i have a problem.There is a huge difference between a 17670 and a 18650.This is a big deal for a lot and i"m having a hard time with this.Henry has to make this right if not now then very shortly.

 

[Kid9P]

And some of you are complaining about a few weeks

Thanks for the laugh, my sides are still hurting. :laughing:


All joking aside, I'm very glad that the prices have lowered.
Maybe I can really afford 2 now.....:naughty:

 

[luxlover]

luxlover, nice to have you back - you kind of disappeared when the HDS forum was terminated didn't you. I sense that you like HDS/Ra lights

Thank you. Indeed I did disappear to other areas just about when the HDS forum was removed. That was one of the saddest days in flashlight history. :mecry: But today I couldn't hold back my emotions any longer for fear of exploding. The preliminary reaction to Henry's decision needed minor crowd control. It seems calm, now that the reality has set in. I wanted a 120C, but I will surely enjoy the 140C in all of its glory. I have plenty of small lights capable of 170lm, but none like a Henry light. To this day, my only EDC lights since my U60 was delivered to me on May 9, 2005, has been one or another of Henry's lights. I cheated a few times, but I always came back to the roost!!

The durability of Henry's Ra lights, as is evident in my 100Tw Twisty, far surpasses that of any other light he has produced. But due to the high twisting force needed to use it, I have come to the conclusion that I will always prefer his click switch lights due to their electronic method of activation.

to you too!

Jeff

 

[LLCoolBeans]

I am sure that from your first post earlier to now, you have accepted the reality and will embrace ownership of a 100C or 100Cn model for $180.

Yea, I got a little cranky this morning when I decided to check cpf to see if there were any updates from Henry and then finding out that my light had been discontinued before it even saw the light of day.

After a few cups of coffee and a good lunch, I think I've come to my senses.

Still, I liked the idea of the "plus" product line and I'm somewhat saddened to see it go.

Thank the lord, Henry is still offering a choice of emitters. If the narrow beam option had gotten the axe I would have really thrown a temper tantrum.:mecry:

 

[karlthev]

I have many lights including several HDSs and a beta Novatac and a proto Ra ordered as well as a 120cgt (err....HAD ordered on that last...) I also understand the stress under which Henry has been operating and the business climate....I also understand the limited availability of the best of the best in terms of LEDS....this still will be great light nevertheless I am disappointed.........:sigh:


Karl

 

[luxlover]

Haha, Hi Jeff, great entrance!! I'm proud of you man!! Doug

Thank you Doug. I told you in a pm that I was going to come back and participate in all things HDS.

By the way, a birdy told me that you acquired an 85Tr Twisty a few days ago. So how is the honeymoon proceeding? The same birdy told me that you are a master in customizing it? Did my source give me accurate intelligence?

Are you in for a Clicky as a big brother to the Twisty? All HDS lights play nicely together and live in perfect harmony. You can never have too many!

 

[luxlover]

Never forget....

And Jeff.. Quit trolling. :nana:

Look at Enzo. His heart has been broken. Can a 100lm light manage to mend that broken heart? Only time will tell.

 

[dtsoll]

Yep, I love the 85Tr Jeff, and yes I have preordered a 100C to keep the twisty company. Good to have you posting over here again Jeff and thanks for the help my friend!!! Doug

 

[luxlover]

Thanks for the laugh, my sides are still hurting. :laughing:


All joking aside, I'm very glad that the prices have lowered.
Maybe I can really afford 2 now.....:naughty:

Ray,
You are the consummate flashaholic....."buy two!" Admirable quality!

 

[luxlover]

Yep, I love the 85Tr Jeff, and yes I have pre-ordered a 100C to keep the Twisty company. Good to have you posting over here again Jeff, and thanks for the help my friend!!! Doug

I want everybody to know that Doug got a temporary case of cold feet when he took his maiden voyage with the customization guide in hand. Before I could say boo, he had figured it out and sent me a pm stating "I don't need your lousy help anymore!" I am kidding about this!! But he was proud of himself for being independent. I am proud of him too.