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Didn't the PT rep say they are using a Rebel (guessing higher bin). As for the flood not all PT EOS have the exact same beam. One of mine has a bit less flood than the other (both 50 lumen models). I bet there could be some variations within the frosted optic. Also the tints and output between LEDs of even the same Bin can have their own variations as well. In any case I liked the beam shots. The EOS is the best 3XAAA headlamp in my view.

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I don't think the newer Rebel LED EOS (50 or 70) comes with a clear optic.
 
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Gazerbeam, does the 70 lumen version really have a lower low like the pictures indicate? That would be awesome. In your pictures it almost appears like a moon mode, but that may be due to the distance of the tree in your picture? If lower low then there should be a longer run-time than 121 hours, no?
 

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It's possible to pull your EOS apart with a good pair of pointynose pliers instead of drilling it.

It will clip back together just like new when you've finished.

Just have to grab the plastic walls right next to the rivets and pull each side up slightly.

(that's if you are still going to take it apart)

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Gazerbeam, does the 70 lumen version really have a lower low like the pictures indicate? That would be awesome. In your pictures it almost appears like a moon mode, but that may be due to the distance of the tree in your picture? If lower low then there should be a longer run-time than 121 hours, no?

The low on the 70 lumen version is definitely not moon mode but it's very low I'm guessing about 8 or so lumens. The beam is so evenly diffused it's hard to judge, even when compared to known lumen values of other lights. The warm beam spreads out fast over a short distance, at arms length about 18" the pattern is about 8" wide, at 7' about 48". I really can't imagine needing a much lower low for most practice uses. I took some indoor beam shots last night comparing it to a Novatac 120P set at level 14 (7.5 lumens) I'll post them here as soon as their processed.

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I just bought a Novatac EDC 85T and have all 4 modes under 4 lumens. Heck 3 out of the 4 are under 1 lumen. That's the kind of low low I am looking for.
 

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It's possible to pull your EOS apart with a good pair of pointynose pliers instead of drilling it.

It will clip back together just like new when you've finished.

Just have to grab the plastic walls right next to the rivets and pull each side up slightly.

(that's if you are still going to take it apart)

Cheers
Dom

Since PT has stated the LED is a Rebel I currently don't plan to dissect my EOS, but that may change. Thanks for the pliers idea.
I think it would be safer to drill off the tiny plastic rivet heads. With my luck and pliers I'm bound to break something. :D
 

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Then the 70 lumen EOS's low is no ware near as low as you need. :candle:
I have the older 45 or 50 lumen EOS and I do like the low I just thought your pics made it seem lower than the one I have. As I said I like the low on the EOS, I just wish there was a moon mode on it for longer run-time.
 

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In direct comparison does it seem like you lose some throw from the new 70 lumen compared to the more focused hotspot of the 45 lumen? By the picture if I were to guess if I didn't know the LED emitter, by the shape of the spill it resembles my Quark XP-Gs.
 

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Yes you do lose some throw with the 70 lumen EOS, but not as much as I guessed white walling inside the house. I thought the much diffused beam would have terrible throw, boy was I wrong. When I tried out the new EOS in the back yard I was surprised at how far it throws its big wall of light. On high it throws (to my eyes) about 20% less than my old tight hot spot EOS. I'll see if I can take longer range beamshots comparing the two.
 

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So Gazerbeam's old EOS is the original 25 lumen EOS right? The second generation was 5o lumens and has only been out a year or so. What is all of this talk about a 45 lumen model? I have a 1st gen and a 2nd gen and have a 3rd gen 70 lumen on order. Does anyone have a comparison of the 50 lumen vs the 70 lumen?
 

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I disassembled both here's the pictures.

70 lumen EOS first.
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25 lumen EOS last.
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Optic housing, 25 lumen on left, 70 lumen on right.
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Main housing, 25 lumen on left, 70 lumen on right. Both exterior lenses are clear.
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Great pictures... THANK YOU!

Also, I just noticed that Brightguy has the 70 lumen EOS' in stock now.

Just ordered one from Brightguy (for a long time family friend) total price $40 use coupon code "ship6". I'll post here if there's any difference in the packaging or lights.

Update: Received EOS today 4/21/10 wow that's fast. Here's a picture of the package this one has the sticker.

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I received a free 70 lumen EOS from Ron at Mountain Laurel Designs today, how's that for customer satisfaction!
Here's a picture of the new packaging.

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Hi,

I just received a new 70 lumen eos from brightguy. One problem is it appears that from a few feet away, from a wall the hot spot is not centered, it is alittle low. I have also noticed this in 2 of the 50 lumen eos headlamps that i've had. Is this common. Im not sure if i should send it back. Brightguy said they will only send a new one if it is considered defective,and they said they would have to determine if it is off-centered enough to be defective.

Any opinions would be appreciated
 

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Welcome to CPF, arizona1 :)

Hotspot on your headlamp a little low, you say? Maybe try moving it a little higher up on your forehead?
 

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