It would not be 100% accurate for me to say that the Twisty is my favorite UI

[Rusty Joe]

I hate twisties. I hate them wicked fierce. I have heard so, so many people praise them around these parts. I've had several for years and I hate them as much now as I did at first. I get sick of hearing people adore them And no, law enforcement doesn't prefer them as a whole. A good clicky has no downside.

 

[fran82]

Re: Twisty Hate

However, clickie flashlights are more prone to failure than twisty ones.

Also, generally, twisty flashlights are smaller in size than the equivalent one but in clickie version

 

[Rusty Joe]

Re: Twisty Hate

However, clickie flashlights are more prone to failure than twisty ones.

Then explain how come my Inova flashlight buttons have continued to get harder to use with time. And I've had others where the twisty mechanism either wouldn't work or you had to toy with it to get it to lock off or turn it all the way to turn it on.

 

[SureAddicted]

Re: Twisty Hate

And no, law enforcement doesn't prefer them as a whole. A good clicky has no downside.

That is a huge generalization. Unless you went around to all the LEO agencies and took a poll, I really can't see how you can come up with a statement like that.
The biggest downside to a clicky is that it's mechanical, moving parts wear out and break.

Then explain how come my Inova flashlight buttons have continued to get harder to use with time.

It's called maintenance.

 

[fyrstormer]

Re: Twisty Hate

The key to a switch that keeps working over the long-term is a sliding contact, because they keep themselves clean. Lots of older pre-enlightenment-era (excuse the pun) flashlights used sliding switches for this very reason.

Clickies and twisties both need cleaning from time to time. Twisties are easier to clean because they come apart, whereas clicky switches generally have to be replaced as a unit. To this end, a modular clicky switch like the McClicky is much more maintenance-friendly.

 

[angelofwar]

Re: Twisty Hate

Then explain how come my Inova flashlight buttons have continued to get harder to use with time.

There in lies the answer...I've had my G2 for 7 years now and the twisty works fine...

Plus, they're indestructible (the SF one's any ways)...a chunk of metal that needs to touch another chunk of metal to complete a circuit...pretty hard to break.

BUT, I will give your statement credit, as the Inova twisties are a little more technical than the SF ones (i.e. more parts/more complicated construction), which is what leads, in part, to them wearing out/sticking over time and getting harder to use. I'm guessing SF learned this, and is why they have more tolerance in there threads, to prevent this "sticking" from just dust getting in the threads? There's not a problem with SF twisties that can't be fixed by cleaning the threads (99% of the time).

If it's only Inova twisties that you're experiencing this with (???), you way want to change the title of thread though.

All my Inova twisties tend to exhibit this as well, and I think it may just be an engineering flaw that they didn't catch???

 

[LiteShow]

Re: Twisty Hate

You do not like twisties, and clickies are more prone to failure because of the high current they handle, so why not get a light with an electronic clicky? Electronic clickies generally are more reliable mainly because they handle a much lower current.

 

[derangboy]

Re: Twisty Hate

I feel the design plays a big role in how well a twisty functions. I have a twisty that is well knurled on the handle but completely smooth on the head:shrug:
My Ra Twisty is quite stiff and the body is somewhat difficult to grasp. This can be modified through the use of a different o-ring, but I choose not to at this time. My Lunasol 20 is very smooth as a twisty and operates easily in either hand. I still prefer a clicky but I am lucky enough to have both.

 

[Roger Sully]

Re: Twisty Hate

I prefer clickies hands down for edc carry, heck I usually carry at least 3! I must say that I found myself in a scenario where I was only able to take 1 light....no backup (although I snuck one in). I've had some of my favorite lights crap out on me and having a clicky fail on me was not an option.
In all my years (I still have my first 6p from about 20 years ago) I can't recall ever having a twist -on mechanism fail and you'd best believe that even thought it's not the brightest light I own, I sported my C2 Centurion (courtesy of AOW).

 

[fyrstormer]

Re: Twisty Hate

You do not like twisties, and clickies are more prone to failure because of the high current they handle, so why not get a light with an electronic clicky? Electronic clickies generally are more reliable mainly because they handle a much lower current.

If the truth be known, most lights nowadays ought to have power transistors standing between their switches and their emitters. I'm not a fan of electronic clickies of the type I think you're talking about, though, because without a mechanical disconnect the circuitry is always drawing power.

 

[LiteShow]

Re: Twisty Hate

I'm not a fan of electronic clickies of the type I think you're talking about, though, because without a mechanical disconnect the circuitry is always drawing power.

If the circuit is drawing power but at a very low rate (possibly lower than the self discharge of the cell), I think that shouldn't be a problem. I guess it all depends on different lights with electronic circuitry perform.

I have a Zebralight SC50 with an electronic clicky and I've measure the parasite drain to be < 10 micro amps - so a fully charged Eneloop should last 20 - 40 years in there!

 

[^Gurthang]

Re: Twisty Hate

Just tried the twisty tailcap that LF supplies w/ the SP-6 and noticed that its equipped as a forward momentary tailcap. Is that typical of SureFire twistys as well? Just curious....

 

[Kestrel]

Re: Twisty Hate

I get sick of hearing people adore them

edit: ... never mind ...

 

[DM51]

Re: Twisty Hate

The word "Hate" in a thread title is unnecessary and inflammatory. That, taken together with the exaggerated language you have used in post #1, does not inspire confidence in the future of this thread. It is quite possible that trolls will be drawn here to stir the pot; if that happens and the thread has to be closed, much of the blame will fall on you.

If you think about it, it is really rather silly to say you HATE a harmless inanimate object. I suggest you amend the title and your post and adopt a less implacable tone.

 

[Darvis]

Re: Twisty Hate

Quite frankly, I love the twisties when riding my SV650... The straightaways are just not as fun...

Oh, wait... those twisties... sorry...

 

[jimbo@stn23]

Re: Twisty Hate

Myself, I lean toward liking a good clicky, so much so I've got a mint Z49, which doesn't quite look right on a Z2, and 2 Z49's on my lightly modded C2 and M2. But then I also like the stone reliability of the Surefire twisties of which 4 of my Surefires have.

If they're built well, I can go either way, twist or click.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Re: Twisty Hate

If you think about it, it is really rather silly to say you HATE a harmless inanimate object. I suggest you amend the title and your post and adopt a less implacable tone.

And "wicked fierce" hatred at that! I prefer a good clicky over a twisty as they are generally easier for me to operate with one hand. I do however understand that generally speaking, twisties are more reliable as there are no moving parts to break.

but hate? :crackup: nah...

 

[kaichu dento]

Re: Twisty Hate

I hate twisties. I hate them wicked fierce. I have heard so, so many people praise them around these parts. I've had several for years and I hate them as much now as I did at first. I get sick of hearing people adore them And no, law enforcement doesn't prefer them as a whole. A good clicky has no downside.

The only thing I can find to 'hate' is your stance of hatred for anything you don't like, regardless of how many of the rest of us are willing to allow your choices to stand.

Virtually every time I've been reprimanded by a Mod it's been in opposition to those like you who think that others preferences are stupid and worthy of the disrespect you show in even starting this meaningless thread with no purpose other than to start a forest fire where none existed.

 

[march.brown]

Re: Twisty Hate

I've had others where the twisty mechanism either wouldn't work or you had to toy with it to get it to lock off or turn it all the way to turn it on.

I have ten twisties and none of them are difficult to use ... They are all cleaned and lubricated occasionally which probably accounts for their perfect reliability ... The most expensive are my five iTP torches , so all my twisties are in the budget category.

Apart from their reliability , I prefer them because they are smaller and lighter than the equivalent clickies.
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[copperfox]

Re: Twisty Hate

The only thing I can find to 'hate' is your stance of hatred for anything you don't like, regardless of how many of the rest of us are willing to allow your choices to stand.

Virtually every time I've been reprimanded by a Mod it's been in opposition to those like you who think that others preferences are stupid and worthy of the disrespect you show in even starting this meaningless thread with no purpose other than to start a forest fire where none existed.

Where did he say that others' preferences are stupid and worthy of disrespect?

Kaichu, YOU shouldn't start a "forest fire" where none exists. So the guy hates twisties? Let him, he has the right to hold his opinion. Nobody gets bent out of shape when people say "I love ____", yet love is just as strong of an emotion as hatred.