Dedicated throwers

[luminositykilledthecat...]

Finally after much frustration and three calls into Paypal's help center, I was able to order the TN31 from saabluster!

Happy Days. I had trouble with PP too for some reason unbeknown to me.
Now I'm debating about ordering the other two or not. LOL

 

[Fresh Light]

Happy Days. I had trouble with PP too for some reason unbeknown to me.
Now I'm debating about ordering the other two or not. LOL

I believe the other ones are in stock, so you can tide yourself over till the TN31 gets there. I'm getting some new stuff to try out till mine gets here.

 

[luminositykilledthecat...]

I have a spare XRE R2 EZ900 P60 pill lying around and need to give it some use. Anyone know what kind of lux to expect if I buy one of those Ahorton lenses and set it up ?

 

[psychbeat]

I have a spare XRE R2 EZ900 P60 pill lying around and need to give it some use. Anyone know what kind of lux to expect if I buy one of those Ahorton lenses and set it up ?

I think 30-40k ish
I've got one and it's pretty nice for the small size.

 

[BLUE LED]

I have a spare XRE R2 EZ900 P60 pill lying around and need to give it some use. Anyone know what kind of lux to expect if I buy one of those Ahorton lenses and set it up ?

It depends on how hard your EZ900 R2 is driven and if you are willing to make a copper heatsink etc. The most I have been able to achieve is 33k lux.

I am assuming you will be using a Dereelight P60 1.5A EZ900 R2 and ahorton aspheric. Hopefully you will get a good one and then you should expect around 26k lux.

 

[ScaryFatKidGT]

Don't get me started on the SR90. I really don't like the light as I think it is far too huge and if you do go that huge then you design it differently than a normal light instead of just pushing the enlarge button on the copier. That huge reflector could of course throw much farther than the TN31's due to its massive size. The only thing is it would almost certainly require a larger die LED like the SST-90 to prevent it from having a pencil beam but that LED has a lower surface brightness potential than the XM-L so pushed to equal extremes the added throw probably wouldn't be all that much or worth the extra size light. IMHO Now If Cree made a 9mmx9mm LED then it would be a little different but there really isn't any choice at that size.

I meant fit the SR90 reflector on the VPT

 

[saabluster]

When i receive the TN31 I will do my best to provide some good beamshots and possibly a lux reading. But lets face it, if Saabluster quotes a lux value then that is what it will do. I am really looking forward to this flashlight.

Keep in mind that individual setups vary. I have not yet been able to measure the VPT or the SR90UT on my setup. I would really love if someone wanted to send them my way just to test.

I'm ordering one too. I want to see if this really blows the SR95UT out of the water. I find that hard to believe, but I'll be finding out a few weeks after I place my order! This stuff is so addictive.

Just need to temper some emotions here. Back when I created the first DEFT there was no doubt in my mind that it blew everything else out of the water because even factoring light meter variance there was still so much more throw that I felt comfortable making the grand statement "world's longest throwing". I do believe the modded TN31 is the new king but it is not by the same margin that the original DEFT was over everyone else. A strong SR90UT may equal a "weak" TN31. I just don't know. I have seen people post numbers all over the place for the SR90UT and the VPT so it is hard to get an accurate picture without all lights being measured on the same setup.

What I think is really amazing is that the other two lights of Saabs site are at or higher lux than the Deerelight aspheric that has been discussed here to no end. The Fandy Fire does it using a xlm meaning it's going to have a really high lumen nice beam. That alone I applaud as quite an accomplishment. The Small Sun light beats the biggest baddest Deft Edc but may be a bigger but it's also flood to throw. I think his site is appropriately named. I looked forward to growth and options.

I am amazed that more people haven't gotten the STL-V6. It is stunning in person. I sent the first modded TN31 off to my uncle and since then my go-to light for security sweeps has been the FandyFire. The SmallSun is more discreet in use but the "shock and awe" factor of the STL-V6 is why I have been using it to check the property. I stay up late at night most every night and as such hear my fair share of bumps in the night. I know how to interpret the sounds and sights I hear as to whether or not they or normal or out of the ordinary. So two weeks ago I heard noises and saw lights that in my mind seemed slightly off. So I grabbed the modded FandyFire and went outside. I went out into the alley and fired it up. Immediately 2 boys were brightly lit up at the very end of the alley about 550 feet away. They froze like a deer in the headlights staring at the beam and then after a second or so they started running off in a rather terrified manner with them both shooting off in separate directions followed by one weaving back to join the retreat path of his friend. I don't know what those boys were up to but with the way they reacted I don't think it was any good. At least now they know there is someone in my alley watching who can shed immense amounts of light on whatever they are doing in the dark.

 

[CamoNinja]

SAAB any outside beam shots of the STL-V6.

Thanks

 

[saabluster]

SAAB any outside beam shots of the STL-V6.

Thanks

I have some yes but the color balance is way off. I need to redo them. This isn't the best time to do them due to the full moon but I'll try and get something up tonight.

 

[saabluster]

Finally after much frustration and three calls into Paypal's help center, I was able to order the TN31 from saabluster!

I called up PP and asked them why on earth they were harassing you and they said they picked you at random to make sure everything was on the up and up.

 

[rustlerdudr987]

Could we also get some more angles of the light especially the FandyFire like a shot down the business end showing the reflector and the X-ML.

 

[luminositykilledthecat...]

LOL, we are a terrible bunch, we really are. Poor Saabluster works his butt off to get the site up and running, we all say WOW , then harass him for more more more.....

 

[climberkid]

He likes the attention, and he knows it.


-Alex

 

[Fresh Light]

LOL, we are a terrible bunch, we really are. Poor Saabluster works his butt off to get the site up and running, we all say WOW , then harass him for more more more.....

Well, to get more and more, he'll need support in the form of good sales. I hope all his throwers sell well, so we can continue to get more of the best lights.

 

[luminositykilledthecat...]

I would of thought that Saabluster's modded FANDYFIRE STL-V6 was selling like hotcakes.
A M3X clone with 117kcd for $98 in my opinion is a cracking deal. The form factor is a very popular one, and it can be used even shorter with 3 x cr123's. What's not to like? I am most likely going to add one to my order, too good to miss in my opinion!

 

[ScaryFatKidGT]

I would of thought that Saabluster's modded FANDYFIRE STL-V6 was selling like hotcakes.
A M3X clone with 117kcd for $98 in my opinion is a cracking deal. The form factor is a very popular one, and it can be used even shorter with 3 x cr123's. What's not to like? I am most likely going to add one to my order, too good to miss in my opinion!

I really wanna get it for use with 2 18500's but I don't really like the UI either, I might get the SmallSun but I wish it was a forward clicky but thats not a big deal.

Have you measured the lumen output on the TN31 and fandy? You say the TN31 is close to stock but maybe a little lower, what does that mean? 800, 900, 1000, 1050? And what temp would you say the tint is? I know it is subjective but I think you have seen enough LED tints to tell. Ill wait for beam shots too but all cameras are different.

 

[saabluster]

So I got an order from someone in Shenzhen. I know who they are and that they are the manufacturer of one of the lights talked about in this thread to no small degree. I wonder why they want to see one of my lights?

I really wanna get it for use with 2 18500's but I don't really like the UI either, I might get the SmallSun but I wish it was a forward clicky but thats not a big deal.

Have you measured the lumen output on the TN31 and fandy? You say the TN31 is close to stock but maybe a little lower, what does that mean? 800, 900, 1000, 1050? And what temp would you say the tint is? I know it is subjective but I think you have seen enough LED tints to tell. Ill wait for beam shots too but all cameras are different.

I do not spec these lights based on lumens for a very good reason. I am trying to get people to stop thinking of a lights power in those terms. At least as it concerns throwers. Far too many people think more lumens equals more throw when there is very little correlation between the two. We need to retrain the populace. The color temp of these modded lights generally falls in between 4500-5000K.

 

[Tiresius]

So I got an order from someone in Shenzhen. I know who they are and that they are the manufacturer of one of the lights talked about in this thread to no small degree. I wonder why they want to see one of my lights?

It would cost them too much to manufacturer a light of your quality for a competitive price even if they try to replicate one of yours. Maybe they're interested in how you managed to pull those numbers with one of those lights?

 

[luminositykilledthecat...]

Not surprised the guys in shenzhen made an order. If I made a flashlight then someone modded it so well I would be intrigued to find out how they did it.

 

[ScaryFatKidGT]

So I got an order from someone in Shenzhen. I know who they are and that they are the manufacturer of one of the lights talked about in this thread to no small degree. I wonder why they want to see one of my lights?

WOW thats crazy I wonder how they found out about it so fast?

I do not spec these lights based on lumens for a very good reason. I am trying to get people to stop thinking of a lights power in those terms. At least as it concerns throwers. Far too many people think more lumens equals more throw when there is very little correlation between the two. We need to retrain the populace. The color temp of these modded lights generally falls in between 4500-5000K.

Ok I was just wondering, for ashperic lights I don't care but it is still important (like the 7G5 vs Deree light) but in a reflectored light it makes a difference what the spill looks like. The main reason I'm wondering is that I already have a TN31 and am thinking about getting rid of it for one of urs.

It would cost them too much to manufacturer a light of your quality for a competitive price even if they try to replicate one of yours. Maybe they're interested in how you managed to pull those numbers with one of those lights?

Yeah My first thought was that they would copy it but other than the ThruNite there $20 lights even if they spent the money and analyzed and copied your thermal paste and heat mods I doubt they would be able to get it made under $80 and they wouldn't check there LED's and stuff so they would have a huge variance in performance. They probably just wanna see what all the fuss is about. The only thing I would worry about is them copying your de-doming proses if there are any hints to how you get it done in one of your lights.

One more question (sorry haha) Do you warranty these lights at all, mainly the ThurNite sense I doubt the others even have a warranty department? 2 things I'm worried about. 1. Just random small things like a switch going bad or spring coming off and the company looking at it and not wanting to touch it because of the mods even if it was out of warranty and I offered to pay I doubt they would want to fix it and 2. The LED, I know you test these and run them at what you have deemed and tested to be safe levels but if one goes dim or poof you can be sure that the manufacturer wont touch it.