Surefire tactician

[akz133]

Surefire is out of them and will not have any more until mid February

 

[Flashlight Dave]

Surefire is out of them and will not have any more until mid February

That is what they said to me on January 2nd. They told me the middle of January. Now its the middle of February. I can understand being caught off guard with a couple popular lights but I would have hoped that Surefire would have got their act together by now.

 

[Tachead]

That is what they said to me on January 2nd. They told me the middle of January. Now its the middle of February. I can understand being caught off guard with a couple popular lights but I would have hoped that Surefire would have got their act together by now.

Lights can only be manufactured so fast and with several of the new models(Tactician, EDCL1-T, and EDCL2-T) being so popular, I can see why they are behind. They sold thousands of the Tacticians alone. I believe just Tactical Response alone sold a couple of thousand pre-orders. The last thing we want is Surefire rushing and having quality issues so, I suggest we all just remain patient.

 

[bykfixer]

Good post tachead.

Folks may have forgotten that SureFire downsized their flashlight operation a couple of years ago. Then releasing what? 11 new lights late in 017... yup they got caught off guard I suppose.

I got one of the first shipments of EDCL2-T's and it was serial numbered 58xxx...

 

[Dan FO]

Hello everybody. Been reading this thread since it got started way back when. I preordered 2 of these lights when then link was up. I was using a tan eb2 backup. I personally like the "whiter tint" of this light more. However i do find myself missing the longer throw of the eb2. Thinking of purchasing a edcl2t for comparison. Or maybe trading that extra Tactician towards it.

The tint on the one I saw looked greenish.

 

[desert.snake]

Cool, it looks like L4 with the head of KL4, but more power.
Somebody could put next to the two beams Tactician and L4?

 

[dano]

I wouldn't be surprised, at all, if SF farms out the machining to Streamlight, like they did several years ago, to catch up with demand...

 

[Tachead]

I wouldn't be surprised, at all, if SF farms out the machining to Streamlight, like they did several years ago, to catch up with demand...

I believe Streamlight has most, if not all, of their stuff made offshore(likely China) these days. Some models say "made in China" and others say "assembled in the USA" so I doubt they manufacture anything themselves anymore.

 

[Flashlight Dave]

Lights can only be manufactured so fast and with several of the new models(Tactician, EDCL1-T, and EDCL2-T) being so popular, I can see why they are behind. They sold thousands of the Tacticians alone. I believe just Tactical Response alone sold a couple of thousand pre-orders. The last thing we want is Surefire rushing and having quality issues so, I suggest we all just remain patient.

Still this is uncommon for Surefire and it will hurt their business. As I said I gave them credit at first when they were caught off guard by the popularity of their new lights but for whatever reason they have not been able to get these lights out faster. I can wait. Thats not a problem but the delays does reflect on the company.

 

[Tachead]

Still this is uncommon for Surefire and it will hurt their business. As I said I gave them credit at first when they were caught off guard by the popularity of their new lights but for whatever reason they have not been able to get these lights out faster. I can wait. Thats not a problem but the delays does reflect on the company.

Honestly I doubt it will hurt their business much. People are lining up for these lights and almost everyone who has gotten one loves them. And remember, they are not the same company they used to be. They lost their government contracts and did a lot of downsizing.

They probably should have told people they were in for more of a wait but, things happen. With the Tactician they had a major issue with the clips and had to scrap the whole lot and reorder. That all adds delays and so does the demand and the shear amount of preorders alone.

The only thing you could have done to get one faster is order it sooner as many have already been shipped. Other then that, your two options are wait or cancel your order. Yep, waiting sucks but, what can you do.

 

[Jim Bonney]

What's with the fuss about waiting anyway? It's not like an object is going to change your life. Don't forget that good things come to those who wait.

 

[Chadder]

I'm patiently waiting! In the meantime this thread needs a few for pictures! If I can't use one I might as well look at one!

 

[desert.snake]

Maybe a little off topic. If they lost government contracts, then who took their place?

 

[Dead Reckoning]

I'm assuming that SF did not loose all Military/LE/PSE contracts. Just a large portion after major scale down in military operations worldwide. Still, smaller purchasing orders from individual units I'm sure still come in. But those larger contracts for tens of millions seems to have dried up. So I do not believe that there were other Mil spec flashlight companies that somehow "took" SF contracts. But I would assume it's more piecemeal now. That is unless someone has some better info.

Maybe a little off topic. If they lost government contracts, then who took their place?

 

[Nimitz68]

Maybe a little off topic. If they lost government contracts, then who took their place?

We did!!! At least it feels that way at times.

 

[bykfixer]

I'm assuming that SF did not loose all Military/LE/PSE contracts. Just a large portion after major scale down in military operations worldwide. Still, smaller purchasing orders from individual units I'm sure still come in. But those larger contracts for tens of millions seems to have dried up. So I do not believe that there were other Mil spec flashlight companies that somehow "took" SF contracts. But I would assume it's more piecemeal now.

Correct-uh-mundo.

They used to sell to government agencies across the globe. Europe, the Middle East etc.

Night vision gear is replacing flashlights. Don't need a flashlight when you can see in the dark.

 

[hippo261]

I bought one yesterday,and I may run a simple '16650test' when I got it.

 

[desert.snake]

I bought one yesterday,and I may run a simple '16650test' when I got it.

Please

 

[bdr]

Hi.
Does anyone know which LED is installed?

 

[Tachead]

Please

There is a good one earlier in the thread. Post #398:thumbsup:.