Preventing overcurrent in parallel circuits?

TorchBoy

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The LM317 is great if you have enough voltage headroom and you're not worried about top efficiency. It sounds like you don't have enough volts for it to still be running in regulation.

I'll mention a couple others that are my present favourites.

Just over a week ago I replaced my car's interior light with a couple of Crees driven by a KD "Kennan" buck board. Efficiency is around 85%, fixed 750mA current. That board handles 12V nicely and steps down the voltage as required. The current can be tweaked by changing a surface mount set resistor - I've thought of using a multi-position switch with several resistors of different values. The board needs the odd volt or two above the forward voltage of the LED series it's driving.

You mentioned dimming, so an interesting option is the AMC7135, which is a fixed 330mA linear regulator with a 0.12V dropout voltage - much lower than the LM317 used as a current regulator. It comes in multi-mode varieties (example) quite inexpensively. The main drawback is that it can only cope with 6V maximum (preferably lower for efficiency and heat reasons). Don't let that stop you - just use something in series with the board to step the voltage it needs to handle down to less than 6V. Normal power diodes might drop 0.6V each, so use something around 3.6V and you'll need fewer of them. (Have you figured where this is going?) You might just as well get some return for those dropped volts, so use LEDs instead of ordinary diodes - just keep in mind that they'll have a lower forward voltage when running at lower current.

If you want to go up-market there are lots of expensive drivers, but I haven't found much of a need for them for my uses.

Merry Christmas.
 
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Mash

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And a merry christmas to you, and all of CPF as well!
Well, today with further playing I have more clarity. The LM is working as advertised, and I can switch between running one, two or three crees, all off 12V with no over V or over A! SO now I can set the current required, and just experiment with other factors. I had the 3 crees running at 350mA and the heatsink which got real toastie before, is barely getting warm. So Im thinking for domestic applications 350mA is a very good set point. Which leads us back to the driver! I was excited about the kai drivers, especially the one you mentioned, due to the large Vin range. However, now Im realising the best solution (ease of use, and features, now that I kinda grasp the concepts) will be a commercial AC driver; and 350mA is perfectly fine, something like this; drives 16 crees at 350, and dimmable too.

PS When I check the vlaues of R1 and current, by my calculations I get an ADJ of approx 1.4V. Apart from errors in the meter etc, any reasonable explanation for this?
 
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Mash

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Two crees in series, 12V input, with a 2.7 Ohm R1, I get 560mA, and 1.6V across the ADJ (For 3.3 Ohm R1, 460mA).
With 3 crees, its less than 1volt, probably as you said its falling out of regulation.
 

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Could it be your set voltage is 1.6V? Seems a tad high but the calculations work out (roughly).
 

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I dont quite understand what you mean by "set" voltage.
Maybe I have an inaccurate multimeter, or a strange acting chip.
But as you said, the calculations roughly work out, until it falls out of regulation, so the principle workings are correct!
Thanks for all your help and advice, Torchboy, its great to have knowledge like yours to count on, when trying to learn things.
 

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I dont quite understand what you mean by "set" voltage.
Sorry, I mean the reference voltage, as measured across R1, between the adj and out pins of the LM317. When set up as a current regulator the LM317 tries to keep that a constant voltage, which is nominally 1.25V. Yours is apparently a little higher, which means you need even more voltage headroom, but the principle is the same.
 

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The Dialight/Lumidrives stuff is generally OK but mainly in 220/240V flavours.

Magtech might have some thing of interest in 120V, as youve found looking at output voltage as well as current helps for large clusters.

http://www.magtechind.com

Happy New Year

Cheers
Adam
 
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