“900LM” SSC P7 review - a great bikelight?

EuphoricGrIn

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I've been lurking on CPF for years and finally decided that it was about time I "gave something back". So here's my first review - a quick look at the "900LM" SSC P7 900-Lumen LED Flashlight (1 x 18650) - sku 12271. I picked this particular model because it's the smallest P7 I've found, and I figured heat would be less of a problem as I plan to use it mostly on my mountainbike. It has taken a very long time to arrive - I placed the order just days after the P7s first became available. It arrived this afternoon, wrapped in the usual bubblewrap and yellow-brown envelope.

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The body of the flashlight looks identical to my Q5 UltraFire C2 (in fact, the bodies are interchangeable). Here's a size comparison (from left to right: R2 DX bucklelight, Romisen RC-C3, SS UltraFire C3 Q5, Romisen RC-G2, UltraFire C2 Q5, 900LM SSC P7, Romisen RC-T5)
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The tail switch is a single mode reverse clicky, and because the endcap is recessed slightly more deeply than that on the C2, it'll tailstand (albeit somewhat unsteadily). It also has only a single o-ring at the tailpiece joint, whereas the C2 has 2 o-rings:
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The head has a virtually identical design, but is approximately 30% larger in every dimension. It has an aluminium orange peel reflector and a glass lens:
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The only obvious flaw is that the P7 emitter isn't properly centered:
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The anodising has no obvious flaws, and the threads are smooth, clean and lightly lubricated.
This light is very bright, with a perfect white beam. The beam is not at all blue, and there are no donuts / dark areas – just a nice concentrated hotspot surrounded by a big flood area. I prefer the beam over the "flower petal" Romisen RC-T5:
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The outputs levels are remarkably similar – the RC-T5 has perhaps slightly more throw, but the 900LM comes very close. I'd say the two flashlights offer virtually identical functionality – the advantage with the 900LM is obviously its remarkably compact size. Here's a beamshot for the 900LM:

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The same shot, this time with the RC-T5:
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And for interest sake, the DX R2 buckle light:
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I have used the 900LM handheld for 15 minutes and although it became warm it wasn't in the least bit uncomfortable.
I haven't tried the flashlight out on my bike yet, but will report back once I have been able to assess its performance as a mountainbike trail light – I'm hoping the combination of flood and throw will represent just the right balance, and carrying a couple of spare 18650's won't add much weight.So far, I'm happy with my purchase... :twothumbs
 
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Nice review EuphoricGrIn.
Nice work it does look like a good bikelight!

(You may wish to move it to the reviews or biking section.)
 
Thats just like me. Ordering 2 P7 lights from DX, and the one that is good isnt among them...
(btw: does it only look like it, or is the pill actually in thermal contact to the body this time?)
 
Hi,
I have a P7 modified Ultrafire C2 and use the twofish lockblocks. They are great for this size light and hold it pretty solidly.

You can get them from fenixstore.

Cheers
Mark
 
Nice... looking forward to your MTB impressions too. can you post pics of your bar mount?

quick question... do you think a pair of those RC-C3s mounted a few inches apart would be bright & throwey enough for a bike? FWIW, I seldomly ride faster than 18 MPH on the trails, 95% of the time my pace is 15-7 MPH.

thanks
 
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great review. i just got mine in tonight and gonna take a walk with it. (sometimes i am on here talking more about flashlights than playing with them)
 
Could you reshoot beamshot underexposed to better judge the relative intensities, ideally compared to both the RC-T5 and the C2 Q5, since one is a close competitor in output and the other in size?

Also, is the lens and bezel o-ringed? It looks like the reflector is not screwed in. Does anything bear solidly on the lens?

Thanks, and congrats on landing a nice looking light.
 
My bike is currently in the shop for a service, so actually testing this setup will have to wait until the weekend...

f22shift - Regarding mounting the flashlight on my bike, I purchased a couple of these inexpensive and very light plastic/rubber brackets from DX: sku8274 - I found that the bottom part of the bracket (the part with the thumbscrew) doesn't open wide enough to accomodate my mountainbike's handlebars - so I simply replaced the thumbscrew with 2 cable ties, and this arrangement works well with the UltraFire C2... so I suspect it'll also work with the 900LM. For added peace of mind I thread the lanyard over the handlebars, so that if the flashlight does get knocked out of the bracket, it'll still be attached to the bike.

I purchased one of these "Fenix 360" bike brackets when they first became available, but they're a bit big and ugly (mine is black and orange) for my taste!

kramer5150 - I've used the Romisen RC-C3 as a helmet light during a team 24 hour event - and it does produce a nice mix of throw and flood. The only downside is that the battery doesn't last long, and I haven't come up with a smart way of attaching it to my helmet that would facilitate quick and easy battery replacements...

IMSabbel - The pill does appear to make reasonably good thermal contact with the head - the head itself is bigger and heavier than the UltraFire C2 head, and it does get warm quickly - which is likely a good thing...

Buck - all the threaded components have o-rings, as does the bezel-glass interface. It's all held in place with nice tight tolerances, other than the off-centre emitter. The emitter glue is a slightly pliable greyish compound - I tried nudging the emitter in an attempt to centre it, but it doesn't move much and "bounces back" once the pressure is released. The beam quality doesn't seem to suffer due to the off-centre emitter, so I'll probably leave it...

If I get some time I'll reshoot the beamshots and include the C2. The 900LM is much brighter than the C2 - to the extent that if you were to overlap the 2 beams and then switch the C2 off you probably wouldn't notice a change. I had originally thought I'd need to mount both flashlights on my bike (C2: throw and 900LM: flood), but the 900LM's deep reflector means it's a lot "throwier" than I'd expected, and the C2 would therefore be redundant...

In terms of overall output, the 900LM doesn't come close to my Microfire Warrior I HID... which is "only" rated at 530 lumens. The Warrior is 3 times the size and weight though...
 
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My bike is currently in the shop for a service, so actually testing this setup will have to wait until the weekend...


kramer5150 - I've used the Romisen RC-C3 as a helmet light during a team 24 hour event - and it does produce a nice mix of throw and flood. The only downside is that the battery doesn't last long, and I haven't come up with a smart way of attaching it to my helmet that would facilitate quick and easy battery replacements...

OK thanks... I'm thinking about using one in tandem with a shiningbeam Q5 RC-N3. Should be a nice combination of flood and throw. I dont mind pulling over every hour or so to swap cells. I have a dozen RCR123s and just as many primaries too, and they pack nicely in my camelback. I just don't want a big bulky light overhanging, cluttering up my bar and weighting down my bike.

Question:
Does the RC-C3 fit securely in that little DX8274 handlebar clamp?

I'm going to have to slide my computer over and mount the lights between the stem and shift pods...

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thanks again!!:D
 
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kramer5150: the RC-C3 isn't very secure in the DX8274 handlebar clamp - the diameter of the flashlight is a little too small, although if you turn it so that the RC-C3 clip is against the clamp it sorta holds... not a solution I'd recommend for a race though. The DX clamp is perfect for lights with a similar diameter to the UltraFire C2 and the 900LM.
 
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I'd expect it to have heat dissipation problems if used as a bike light. Those lights are made to be held in your hand (i.e. cooled by circulating liquid) and also usually won't be left running for more than a few minutes. A bike light runs much longer and isn't liquid cooled, though on a moving bike it might get some decent airflow.
 
I'd expect it to have heat dissipation problems if used as a bike light. Those lights are made to be held in your hand (i.e. cooled by circulating liquid) and also usually won't be left running for more than a few minutes. A bike light runs much longer and isn't liquid cooled, though on a moving bike it might get some decent airflow.

Decent airflow on a bike can cool this kind of a flashlight much better than your hand. I tried this with both of mine P7 lights. On a bike they don't get hot for a whole runtime.
 
I'd expect it to have heat dissipation problems if used as a bike light. Those lights are made to be held in your hand (i.e. cooled by circulating liquid) and also usually won't be left running for more than a few minutes. A bike light runs much longer and isn't liquid cooled, though on a moving bike it might get some decent airflow.
Even in mild temperatures the flow of air is much more effective at keeping the light cool than you're hand is I find.
 
IMO the N3 is far too spotty for bike riding. (I'm a cyclist and I've owned an N3)
That's true, the RC-N3 is a decent thrower and not that well suited to cycling, especially mountainbiking though I have used mine for this.
I have actually found that certain types of tranlucent tape on the lens can work OK to diffuse the beam and brighten the spill.
 
kramer5150: the RC-C3 isn't very secure in the DX8274 handlebar clamp - the diameter of the flashlight is a little too small, although if you turn it so that the RC-C3 clip is against the clamp it sorta holds... not a solution I'd recommend for a race though. The DX clamp is perfect for lights with a similar diameter to the UltraFire C2 and the 900LM.

rats!! Hmm OK thanks, I am certainly not racing or in any kind of big hurry when I am on the trails. But I still want it to be secure and not flopping around.

thanks to all who replied about the RC-N3 too.
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