150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superbulbs

[Ginseng]

Well,
I just received the shipment of group buy bulbs from Welch Allyn. 19 bulb types, 320 bulbs in total. Wednesday they start going out to GB participants and Carley Lamps for ceramic potting.

In terms of cost-effective mods, overdriving high-output bulbs is the quickest and easiest way to squeeze more light, sometimes dramatically more light out of your stock torches. The bare pin types drop-in to the MagCharger and ceramic PR-base potted bulbs drop-in to any "regular" flashlight. Can you say 600 lumens out the front of a Mag3D for $3.75? Yeah, works for me too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Cheers to WA for meticulously packing all these little gems and for allowing me to add/correct the order on the day of shipping. They may be a big company but they do things efficiently and precisely.

Looking back, I remember my first Carley group buy for a measly 9,000 lumens worth of bright. My, how we've grown up. Get ready people, you're gonna love these! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Wilkey

 

[PaulW]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

Many thanks, Wilkey. Blazing Hot Wires sounds just right for this slowly approaching winter. They sure do look beautiful in that green array. You have all the fun. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Paul

 

[Icebreak]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

Looks like a DeBeers presentation.

Thanks for your laborous efforts, Wilkey.

 

[LukeK]

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Ginseng said:
Can you say 600 lumens out the front of a Mag3D for $3.75? Yeah, works for me too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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600 Lumens for 3 dollars and 75 cents?? How? You've caught my interest.

 

[boost2much]

[ QUOTE ]
LukeK said:
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Ginseng said:
Can you say 600 lumens out the front of a Mag3D for $3.75? Yeah, works for me too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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600 Lumens for 3 dollars and 75 cents?? How? You've caught my interest.

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Yes, this newbie wants to know also /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif.

 

[Rothrandir]

hey hey hey!

even a led guy would be interested in that! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Sutro_SoundWerks]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

Any for sale? or are they all spoken for? and i was thinking of getting a everled for my old 3D. More info please !!!

 

[S4MadMan]

Thanks for the update Wilkey! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I'm just about ready to do the Super Bulb vs. Super Rechargeables vs. Super LEDs vs. HID flashlight comparison.

Contestants are:

Super Bulbs:
WA 01160
WA 01110
Donor body will be a MAG Rechargeable with UCL and Powerstream 1/2Ds

Super Rechargeables
-MAG Rechargeable with UCL and Powerstream 1/2Ds
-Streamlight SL-35X with UCL and Powerstream 1/2Ds
-Tiger Light with UCL
-CT Zero with Powerstream 1/2Ds

Super LEDs:
Mr. Bulk SN2 with UCL with Energizer E2s
Elektrolumens' Tri-Star 3W with Energizer E2s

HID:
McCulloch X995 (If it ever clears customs)

And for kicks, HID Spotlight:
The MadMan /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Ginseng]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

Icey,
They're true things of beauty. All those glittery little jewels. No facets, but tiny little coiled monsters waiting inside of each one for just that jolt of electrons to bring them to life. Photon rush, baby.

Luke, Boost, Roth,
The $2.20 WA01185 is rated for over 1,100 lumens at maximum overdrive conditions. Applying the empirical output factor of 60-65% gives you about 600 out the front. Conservative, believable and stunning. Really not that far fetched if you consider what 50W 12V MR16 makes. Add $1.55 for potting and there you go.

Sutro,
Sorry, they are all spoken for except for maybe a pair of WA01185. I won't know about those just yet.

Dan,
I can't wait! Just don't burn your fingers changing the bulbs. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Wilkey

 

[Ginseng]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

I didn't realize it but the arrangement sorta looks like a Christmas tree! Sure beats the heck out of those tiny tree lights I have on my plastic pine. Hmmm, I wonder how my tree would look strung with a couple dozen WA01185? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wilkey

 

[mohr]

hi,
i will take the wa 01185 bulbs /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. if nobody wants them. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif i can send the money for the potted WA 01185 or other WA bulbs via paypal
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif i missed the groupbuy

 

[PaulW]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

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Ginseng said:
I didn't realize it but the arrangement sorta looks like a Christmas tree! Sure beats the heck out of those tiny tree lights I have on my plastic pine. Hmmm, I wonder how my tree would look strung with a couple dozen WA01185? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Wilkey

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Hmmm for sure. A couple dozen bulbs at 32 watts each! That's about . . . well it's a lot of watts. Can you afford the electric bill?

Paul

 

[LukeK]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

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Ginseng said:
Sutro,
Sorry, they are all spoken for except for maybe a pair of WA01185. I won't know about those just yet.

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*luke dies* /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoker5.gif

Well I'm rather dissapointed that they are all gone. Any idea when you will purchase the next batch? What kind of host is required for these bulbs? You mentioned the 3D Mag -- what else can be used?. Lastly let me just ask this:

How susceptible to shock are they?
Runtimes must be horrible -- any idea what they are?

Thanks!

 

[shankus]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

Thanks for handling the buy, Ginseng.
It looked like you had it very well organized, and also like it was a lot of work.
We appreciate it... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

 

[jdriller]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

Great work, Wilkey!

 

[Icebreak]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

For those of you who may have missed some of the threads on SuperBulbs; here is one of several tables Ginseng, PaulW, Shiftd and others laid out for us:

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Ginseng's table:

Ok, some configurations using superbulbs. My favorites in italics.

WA01318: Mag3C on 5x123 lith, Mag4C on 4.5 and 5x123 lith, Mag3D on 9xAA nimh

WA01185: Mag3D on 9xAA nimh, want to try 10xAA nimh

WA01274: Mag2D on 6xAA nimh, Mag3D on 6xAA nimh + 1D alkie

CA809: Mag3C on 4x123, Mag4C on 4.5x123

CA805: Mag3D on 3xD alkie, Mag3C on 3xC alkie

CA717: Mag3D on 4x123 lith, acid etched bulb

And just a few of the many suggested by Lemlux:

WA01319: UK D4
WA01111: MagCharger
WA01160: MagCharger
WA01317: DB8AA
WA01148: DB4AA on 6x123 lith

Wilkey


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This came from the Interest in SuperBulb? thread which has many hyper links to developments, experimentations and documented results.

Noteworthy is that CarleyLampsDotCom does custom work. That's why you see a relationship between Welch Allyns and Carley when you read about SuperBulbs. Carley will pot WAs for you. Ginseng, Lemlux and many others have developed a great rapport with Carley Bulbs. Through these efforts, Carley knows what you want. When you get to the point that you need to speak with Carley, Patty (a fairly new CPF member), is who you want to speak with.

Ginseng may be already under consideration for Sainthood for this last group buy so I would be surprised if he did a third one. It doesn't take but a few buyers to meet the minimum so it might be good if someone else considers it.

Wilkey, PaulW -

How did I do on that? Seems like there are a few more CPFers that would like to hotwire a Mag.

- Jeff

 

[Zeppert]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

Nice X-Mas tree Wilkey! Looks like X-Mas came a little earlier then expected /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. It sure would be a beautiful site to see all those lights strung up on a tree and then flip the switch for a second - wouldn't it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[Ginseng]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

LukeK,
I won't be doing another group buy in the foreseeable future. I think other people will step in if the need is there. 36 participants and 58 part numbers and combinations of the above have really burnt me out. They are no more susceptible to shock than any other incandescent bulb. in fact, seeing how well constructed they are, I would think they are more robust than the standard bulb. As to lifetimes, at the most severe conditions, rated lives are as low as 10-15 hours. Having said that, I've never had one expire...from age /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Shankus, jdriller,
Thanks! Turning people on to cheap and easy, bright fun is what keeps me coming back.

Damn, Icey!
You're starting to scare me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif When does the student become the master? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'd also add that the WA01274 is robust at 4x123. The CA809 is robust on 10 fresh nimhs that is enough to blow a WA01185. I think Patty's handle is CL87.

Zepp,
Yeah, I get all misty just thinking about it.

Wilkey

 

[AilSnail]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

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You're starting to scare me When does the student become the master? I'd also add that the WA01274 is robust at 4x123.

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Wow, I wouldn't have guessed. thats a 7.2volt bulb, I think it has to pull over three amps on 4x123's.

Time will show if the WA01319 is a good one for two 123's, but I didn't find any 3x123 bulbs (bright ones!) in time for the GB. Perhaps I looked at too high voltage.

Maybe some of the 6.x V bulbs will do?
There seems to be lots of choises for that.
What is more important for tight beams, thin or short filament?

 

[Ginseng]

Re: 150,000 Lumens of Blazing Hot Wires: WA Superb

I would have thought the 01274 would have blown too, but it's holding and it's bright. I would imagine it is cpulling close to if not over 3A.

WA does not have great 3x123 bulbs. I was thinking of trying the 01111 and I did get two potted ones to try. But the current draw is so ferocious I don't know how it will light up. The 01274 just was not that bright on the 3x123 I had intended.

The closer the filament is to a point source, the better. To this end, I ordered two of the 01183 to try. It should make 500 bLu when pushed and has a filament that is positively tiny. It's gonna be a throw monster. I'll run it on parallel strings of 2x123 because of the high current demand (3.85A).

Wilkey