18 eneloops in series, lamp options?

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Mdocod's 18AA>6D got me thinking on this one, assuming that this is crammed in a maglite....

18AA x 1.5 = 27V peak
18 x 1.2 = 21.6V nominal
2000mah x 2C = 4Amps

Is there any lamps I can use in a 6D mag that does not require the use of a KIU socket? :candle:
 
I figured Mdocod created the adapter to meet a demand, but as of yet I haven't found a thread that uses them:thinking:

I guess the KIU sockets needed to compensate for the bi-pin gap...:ohgeez:

is it possible to overdrive a 24V 100W lamp [like the Ozram 64638 HLX] or a OSRAM 64445U 50W 24V lamp to 27V without instaflashing it?

the lamps aren't expensive but they sure aren't as cheap as 623s:ohgeez:
 
Hello!

You're in bi-pin territory here, I don't think there are any PR based bulbs that tolerate ~20+V So assuming a bi-pin solution of sorts.... here's some things I had in mind..

here's what I had in mind:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=203785

This particular mod is based on a custom switch I made for myself. It has a copper contact on the base, and a high current Judco reverse "clickie" installed, this may not be an option for everyone as it involves a bit of finesse on the drill press :) (read: I really need to get a mill someday, oh- and a lathe, lol)...

120 watts and probably 3000+ torch lumens on fresh but rested cells, probably 15 minutes runtime.

You can also use a 20W bulb instead of a 50W and run around 2.5A and around 50-60W territory for ~45 minutes runtime ~1400 torch lumens.

unfortunately, you won't get 27V to any bulb on 18 eneloops, as soon as the load kicks in, the voltage will drop to around ~1.2V+/- depending on load and such. In my setup there I was actually quite amazed that I was getting over 21V to the pins at 5.7A draw from the cells.

I've found that most "long-life" 12V halogens (some rated 2000, some 4000, some 6000 hours, at these drive levels, it's hard to truly predict how they will behave so best thing is to just experiment with a few bulbs and see what you like)) really start to get pretty around the 20+V territory. They do like to insta-flash though so you kind of have to try a few brands and see how it works out. I've found that resting the 18 eneloops for about 2-3 hours before I pull the trigger has eliminated most of my premature failures on this setup.


Looking at LuxLuthers destructive testing, the closest thing to a "long-life 50W 12V halogen" in his testing is something like that Hikari JC-5043, at 21V, it's pushing a good 4800 bulb lumen. Looks to be very similar to the bulb I'm running based on measured current and such.

The 64458 is another option I think could be considered, with it's massive current draw, i think it would sag a set of eneloops down into that ~1-1.1V per cell area. Would need to rest the cells, but I think you could push ~6000 bulb lumens (+/- a few thousand, lol, hard to say)...

In all great honestly, I believe there are probably a lot of viable options out there, many can be bought at your local hardware store and then abused and replaced conveniently for a couple bucks a bulb.

Eric

PS: I've also been considering the idea of making a 21AA>6D adapter, it would require that the stock spring be cut down and recessed into the tailcap, but with high current cells, I was thinking it might be a viable solution to drive some of those "super-bulbs" like the 24V 250W monsters in a mag host without the need for boring. I might try to put something like that together some day :)
 
well, I wasn't exactly thinking PRs...I have FM's G2 bi-pin holders, I was hoping to acquire some 24V T2-1/4 sized lamps if theres any

that mod is absolutely beautiful mdocod! I'm not sure why I didn't see it while I was searching :thinking:

now to get a KIU socket...:ohgeez:
 
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I think most of the 12V (or other) bulbs you are going to run into that could be used on this adapter will be a GX5.3 base or larger, I think FM makes sockets for that size also... might have to double check BST... The KIU or a complete switch replacement would be better as it would deal with the heat a lot better. Even ROPs and 85s make the *plastic-is-melting-smell* when set up on the stock switch IMO, lol.

The ceramic sockets are awesome because they support a wide range of bulb base sizes as well, so you can experiment with lots of options. The socket I'm using is supposedly rated up to 750 watts :) (I think that's why it has cotton* (?) insulation on the wires instead of rubber, to handle the heat :) )

Eric
 
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