I was playing with my 5 watt luxeon mod last night (with 30mm optic), and though it's plenty bright, it is only marginally brighter than my 1 watt with 30mm optic and obviously not as bright as my Legend LX, or a 5 C celled incandescent bulbed flashlight. I know that you can get a bright spot using a reflector, but for overall brightness, can these 5 watt LEDs compare to these brigher incans? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif