A Collection Of Runtime Graphs

[Illum]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

We need to have a separate thread that consolidates the lights forum members want runtimes of, and from there we-who-have-the-lights will know how to manage our resources to get these runtimes done.

We have sufficient accumulations in reviews of lights in terms of beamshots, what we should establish is a database of runtimes. Quickbeam, this_is_nascar, and Chevrofreak, et al have done an outstanding job thus far, followed by bigwaffles, but Quickbeam has retired and Chevrofreak is...well:o

EDIT:I've confirmed via PM that BigWaffles is in the US, so if theres any requests of runtimes with lights I can spare I'll send mine over

 

[Bullzeyebill]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

I agree. We need a runtimes forum, or a runtimes sub forum in the Reviews Forum, where individual testers would have their own thread. One place to go to get info.

Bill

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

We need to have a separate thread that consolidates the lights forum members want runtimes of, and from there we-who-have-the-lights will know how to manage our resources to get these runtimes done.

Good idea, a wish list for lights to test. :twothumbs

I agree. We need a runtimes forum, or a runtimes sub forum in the Reviews Forum, where individual testers would have their own thread. One place to go to get info.

Bill

I like that idea, I had to direct-link to this thread as I kept losing it.


C.P.T.

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

For those of you awaiting the runtime tests of the Terralux drop-ins for the 3D Maglite...they came in the mail today. :party: Testing will start tonight with graphs to follow.

I received one each of the following:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-6exb.html

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-1f.html

http://www.niteize.com/productdetail.php?category_id=28&product_id=166

I'll post individual graphs as they finish. When I have them all, I'll try to set up a combined graph that shows all the drop-ins I've tested for the 3D Maglites.

Also, I'll see if I can get a combined graph for all the Mini-Mag options I've tested.

Off to the test bench. :poof:


C.P.T.

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Here is the first of the 2 Terraluxes that I have. This is the Terralux TLE-6EXB in a Maglite 3D host with Energizer Alkalines.

Looks like it has a case of the jitters at several points in the graph but has good output for 10 hours.

This is the Terralux TLE-6EXB. Details here:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-6exb.html

This is a funky looking drop-in that replaces both the lamp and screw ring in the Maglite. The whole Terralux module screws into the base.

C.P.T.

 

[22hornet]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Hello,
Thanks a lot for this runtime graph for the TLE-6EXB :twothumbs.
Btw: was the unit hot after the runtime test?

Kind regards,
Joris

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Hello,
Thanks a lot for this runtime graph for the TLE-6EXB :twothumbs.
Btw: was the unit hot after the runtime test?

Kind regards,
Joris

Joris,

You're welcome. Not sure about the module being hot, I ran the test overnight and it was pretty much dead when I woke up. Sorry.


C.P.T.

 

[Burgess]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

To BigWaffles --


This new graph has the Font Size very nicely readable !

:twothumbs:twothumbs:twothumbs


Thank you ! ! !


:goodjob::thanks:
_

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Burgess,

Your quite welcome. Let's see if this next one turns out readable.

This is a compilation graph of all the Mini-Mag tests I've done. Quite a bit of variation across the board.

The original Mini-Mag Incan is quite outclassed here. :candle:

C.P.T.

 

[Burgess]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Interesting Mini-Maglite graphs !


FYI:

It's been my experience . . . .


(and i've tested perhaps a Dozen samples)


The Sandwich Shoppe SMJLED-2AA module

is Much Brighter than any of the Nite-Ize 3-LED modules

which i own.


Perhaps more comparable to your LightHound SMJLED readings, methinks.


Did you only get one sample of the Sandwich Shoppe module ?


My gut-feeling is that yours may be an "under-performing" sample. :cool:


Just thought you'd wanna' know. Not criticizing your results.


Thank you for your lovely graphs !

:kiss:

_

 

[Cydonia]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

That Mini-Mag run time graph is great.
But I wonder what happened to the SMJLED's?
Seems the consensus around here was that the Sandwich Shoppe version was better than the "other one". 30 hour run time on alkalines was a standard often quoted run time expectation. My Sandwiche Shoppe SMJLED modules draw around 120ma of current from 2AA (3000ma) alkaline cells.
This is in keeping with a run time estimate of close to 30 hours.
I don't see how they could fade out at 8 1/4 hours while drawing such a low current. Low batteries in the test Mag?
Or maybe the Sandwiche Shoppe and Lighthound SMJLED's got mixed up? ;)
Getting a multimeter with DC current measuring capability was the best thing I ever did.
It clears up many a strange situation by giving concrete current draw numbers from which one can extrapolate a good rune time estimate.

 

[Illum]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

:twothumbs:twothumbs:twothumbs

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

That Mini-Mag run time graph is great.
But I wonder what happened to the SMJLED's?
Seems the consensus around here was that the Sandwich Shoppe version was better than the "other one". 30 hour run time on alkalines was a standard often quoted run time expectation. My Sandwiche Shoppe SMJLED modules draw around 120ma of current from 2AA (3000ma) alkaline cells.
This is in keeping with a run time estimate of close to 30 hours.
I don't see how they could fade out at 8 1/4 hours while drawing such a low current. Low batteries in the test Mag?
Or maybe the Sandwiche Shoppe and Lighthound SMJLED's got mixed up? ;)
Getting a multimeter with DC current measuring capability was the best thing I ever did.
It clears up many a strange situation by giving concrete current draw numbers from which one can extrapolate a good rune time estimate.

Cydonia,

Not sure what happened with the SMJLEDs. From reading other posts, I was expecting great runtime. The Lighthound version did have good runtime (if you ignore the initial 2hr warmup time). :shakehead

I'm pretty sure they didn't get mixed up with the Sandwich Shoppe version as I ordered 2 of the lighthound versions first and then ordered the Sandwich Shoppe version after getting the screwy graph. I did test 2 of each version in 2 different Mini-Mag hosts and the graphs were very close. Not sure what to make of it.:shrug:

Oh, well. Plenty of other drop-ins to play with.


C.P.T.

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Ok. Here is the second Terralux graph. This is the Terralux TLE-1F drop-in with a 3D Maglite host on Energizer Alkalines.

Output is comparable to the Mag LED but with a much longer runtime and flatter curve.

This is this drop-in here:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tle-1f.html

I've got the Niteize 1W LED on the tester now. Should have the graph in a day or so.


C.P.T.

 

[Cydonia]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

About 35 hours on the TLE-1F till it takes the "big plunge".
The Nite Ize 10mm did about 90 hours till "the big plunge".
A rough guesstimate says that the TLE-1F draws about 3 times the current of the 10mm?
So... is the TLE-1F that much brighter than the 10mm Nite Ize?
How bright does it seem to you - as compared to other lights?
Does this module get very hot to the touch?

It's going to be interesting to see if the Nite ize "TLE-1F clone" has the same run time characteristics! :popcorn: I'm betting it is the exact same module!

 

[22hornet]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Hello,
well it seems to be brighter: the Nite-Ize 10mm does about 800-900, while the TLE-1 does 2000. The TLE-1 also seems much better than the Maglite Drop-in, both in brightness as in runtime.

Seems we all need one, or several :thumbsup:.
I'm going to order some to brighten up my life :twothumbs It even sells at a very attractive price.
I think it is both strange and a pity this drop-in got so little attention over here. Thanks to this thread some old questions are finally answered and for this, Bigwaffles deserves a statue.

Kind regards,
Joris

 

[PCC]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Looking at the graphs I have made the following observations:

The MagLED module makes about 4650 Lux then quickly drops to about 2500 Lux in half an hour. After 8.5 hours at 2500 Lux it starts to drop off slowly and it takes 42.75 total hours to reach 1000 Lux from the start of the test.

The Nite-Ize 10mm bulb starts at 1875 Lux then drops to 1000 Lux in 6.5 hours.

The Terralux starts at 2400 Lux then drops to 1000 Lux in about 37 hours.

The 10mm drop-in will have light for a longer time since it is just slowly dimming after some rediculous amount of time but for usable light it seems that the MagLED is the one to get. Add to this that you can change the emitter fairly easily for an SSC P4, which will just about double the output from this drop-in and it seems like the logical choice.

I'd love to see the three graphs (plus the remaining Nite-Ize drop-in) on one graph as a comparison.

Having said all that I'm probably getting the Nite-Ize 1W drop-in for one of my MagLites.

 

[jasonsmaglites]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

big waffles, can we get a graph of all the d size dropins together so we can more directly compare. thanks for turning us on to the 1watt terralux. i had no idea is was such a good lumens to runtime deal.

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

About 35 hours on the TLE-1F till it takes the "big plunge".
The Nite Ize 10mm did about 90 hours till "the big plunge".
A rough guesstimate says that the TLE-1F draws about 3 times the current of the 10mm?
So... is the TLE-1F that much brighter than the 10mm Nite Ize?
How bright does it seem to you - as compared to other lights?
Does this module get very hot to the touch?

It's going to be interesting to see if the Nite ize "TLE-1F clone" has the same run time characteristics! :popcorn: I'm betting it is the exact same module!

Cydonia,

The Terralux TLE-1F seems about twice as bright as the Niteize 10mm. The data show this as well (200Lux vs 920Lux). As far as heat, after 5-10 min I could hold my finger on the Terralux and it was barely warm.

Looking at the graphs I have made the following observations:

The MagLED module makes about 4650 Lux then quickly drops to about 2500 Lux in half an hour. After 8.5 hours at 2500 Lux it starts to drop off slowly and it takes 42.75 total hours to reach 1000 Lux from the start of the test.

The Nite-Ize 10mm bulb starts at 1875 Lux then drops to 1000 Lux in 6.5 hours.

The Terralux starts at 2400 Lux then drops to 1000 Lux in about 37 hours.

The 10mm drop-in will have light for a longer time since it is just slowly dimming after some rediculous amount of time but for usable light it seems that the MagLED is the one to get. Add to this that you can change the emitter fairly easily for an SSC P4, which will just about double the output from this drop-in and it seems like the logical choice.

I'd love to see the three graphs (plus the remaining Nite-Ize drop-in) on one graph as a comparison.

Having said all that I'm probably getting the Nite-Ize 1W drop-in for one of my MagLites.

PCC,

Not sure about your numbers on the Niteize 10mm. It starts at 920Lux, drops to 900Lux in 32hrs, 800Lux at 70hrs and then falls off at 92hrs.

As far as the Mag LED being the one to get, I'm betting the Niteize 1W is going to beat it. It's been running for 24hrs and is still putting out over 2800Lux. It'll be interesting to see how long it will run.

big waffles, can we get a graph of all the d size dropins together so we can more directly compare. thanks for turning us on to the 1watt terralux. i had no idea is was such a good lumens to runtime deal.

PCC/Jasonmaglites,

Yes, when the Niteize 1W finishes I'll post that graph as well as a compilation of all the 3D Mag drop-ins that i've tested. I'll put it in the same format as the Mini-Mag compilation graph.

So far here is how I rate the beams (subjective, I know):

Mag LED - Brightest and harshest. This has the whitest/harshest beam and is very good for illumination. Few shadows.

Terralux TLE-1F - Not as white as the Mag LED. Seemed a bit yellower/softer. Good illumination.

Niteze 10mm - Blue, almost to purple, lots of shadows. Good for around the house. Makes a good tailcap backup.

More to follow.


C.P.T.

 

[BigWaffles]

Re: Want to post some runtime graphs

Ok, here is the final drop-in I have for the 3D Mag. This is the Niteize 1W LED running on Energizer Alkalines.

As you can see, very good regulation and output. Unfortunately, it only runs 28.5hrs before dropping off :D. I think this has the Mag LED beat. Better regulation, higher overall output and good runtime.


C.P.T.