Anyone cleaned a copper contact point?

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Had an interesting experience tonight.

My favorite small light is a lambda-modded E1E with copper pill. Great walking light! Low dome LED, yet packs a wallop in total output, and even in distance for such a small light! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

Lately the light would intermittently start flickering, even with a fresh battery. I briefly suspected the LED was blown, but that wouldn't make much sense, as this thing is VERY well heatsinked. Then I started thinking about how contact was made with the E1E body. The positive connection is the usual raised solder ball touching the top of the cell, so no surprise there. A visual inspection suggested it was in good shape.

The negative contact point, apparently, is a little more precarious. The ENTIRE outside of the copper slug is negative, but it appears that only a narrow lip presses against the top of the E1E battery tube. Also, the copper was tarnished, though not horribly.

Finally I couldn't take anymore. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Got out some copper cleaner, took the slug out of the light, and veeeery gently rubbed a little copper cleaner into the copper along the sides, taking care not to wet top or bottom. (In reality getting wet probably wouldn't have mattered, as both top and bottom are epoxied solid.)

Then I "rinsed" by wetting the corner of a sponge and running it along the side, and driec thoroughly with paper towels.

Put it back in the light, and voila! The problem is seemingly gone, at least based on the limited runtime I gave it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Here's what I suspect happened: the tarnish introduced a resistance just high enough to drop the cell's voltage below the threshold for the converter in the pill. I suspect that lambda chose a cutoff point very close to a typical 123 cell's loaded voltage, knowing that these cells have a flat discharge curve. Apparently the tarnish was enough to pull the converter quite literally right to the edge between proper operation and flickering, which lambda had told me was a sign that the battery was about to die.

But does this really make any sense? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I also recall my stepfather, who's an electrician, using some sort of goo on wiring he was grounding to the copper pipes in my basement. Or maybe I don't remember that, I don't know. Does such a goo exist, possibly some sort of conductive stuff that acts as a barrier to oxygen, keeping the copper from oxidizing?
 
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milkyspit said:
(major snippage ensues)

...Does such a goo exist, possibly some sort of conductive stuff that acts as a barrier to oxygen, keeping the copper from oxidizing?


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Yes. I have a jar of the stuff sitting next to my
keyboard. It's called Cramolin Paste, Type 81Rc.
It's a thick gooey paste which contains copper particles,
and it's intended for high-amperage contacts on
relays and such. It coats the contacts to prevent
oxidation and (supposedly) improves conductivity also.

I've used it on a set of relay contacts on an
elevator controller; they were badly oxidized and
created lots of electrical RFI when they engaged
due to excessive arcing. The paste reduced the
arcing dramatically (well, so did cleaning the
contacts before applying it). /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
I wouldn't want any 'goo' in my light(s) at all... I picked up one of those $49.00 Ebay ARCS and had the same problem on the + contact. Pencil eraser or better, ink eraser does good.

Rich
 
Absolutely.

Here's my routine:

1. Apply Noxon 7-Metal Cleaner Polish, wipe/rinse with water
2. Sand lightly with 1500 grit wet/dry paper
3. swab with 90% IPA
4. swab with Caig Labs DeOxit contact cleaner/preservative.

Done. Copper is stripped to the metal, oxidation layer removed, and protected from further oxidation.

Wilkey
 
Back in the olden days of S-100 bus and Trash Eighty computers a "Pink Pearl" eraser was in every engineers pocket. A quick rub up on the edge contacts, a spritz of contact cleaner and good to go. Only change now is to use DeOxit instead of plain contact cleaner as in Wilkey above...
 
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richpalm said:
I wouldn't want any 'goo' in my light(s) at all... I picked up one of those $49.00 Ebay ARCS and had the same problem on the + contact. Pencil eraser or better, ink eraser does good.

Rich

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Can't say that I blame you, and I also use
erasers sometimes to clean contacts. I won't
use anything harder than a pencil eraser on
gold contacts, such as those on the edge of
PC boards.

I should clarify, though, that the copper paste
should be applied as a very thin layer, so as
not to leave a big gooey mess. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I've tried Caig products in the past and I have to admit
that I've been disappointed by their price/performance
ratio. These days I use cleaner/preservative solutions
that are a little more, uh, pedestrian. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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